History of 82-70's

[NCWINGNUT]

I recently found a newpaper article dated back in 1982. The article was about the "new owner" (which is still the current owner) of the center that i work at. In the article it stated that the center was 19 years old. I'm curious about how far back the 70's date? I can not find anyone around here that knows the history before 1982 that is still around besides the owner, and we don't communicate on a regular basis. I do know that the article had a picture and we still had telescores then,masking units are the same, (with the exception of paint) and the same old clock hanging above lane 10 is still there and working. So again my question is when did amf start making the 70's. What about the 30's?

[TheGMan143]

Re: History of 82-70's

Well, My 82/70 service manual is dated 2/1967, and it's not a first revision.

From ACUI.ORG:

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[toon30s]

Re: History of 82-70's

My center opened in 1962, late in the year, long before I was born. It had some of the first 82-70s, which were the "A"s. I think there was a thread on these in the "Other Pinspotters" section. Maybe someone can find it and put a link up.

[Rep]

Re: History of 82-70's

The latest copyright date on the plates on the pinwheel cover of our 70's is 1966 and we're in the 120000 range there's many old 70's out there, The other house I work in from time to time were around 104000 I think. I would guess early 60's for 70's. 30's are just ancient lol but they are great, awesome to see and man are they tanks (I can FINALLY say that) [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

[Clutch Plate]

Re: History of 82-70's

Now Im going off memory right now, but I believe the 30's were the first pinspotter to hit the bowling world. I believe the year was 1946.

In fact AMF came out before Brunswick. Not sure how long it took before Brunswick put their machine into production.

[JimDorsin]

Re: History of 82-70's

A moodel of the 1st AMF pinspotter was on display at ABC nationals in 1996 (I believe) In SLC UTah, that was there 50th b-day.. as I recal, it preceded the 30, however I may be mistaken...The oldes 70's I have come across were 1964 (as I recal anyway) model a's. they were in UTah, and were orignaly leased. up until the end of the 70's, they could not be purchaced, and AMF would charge by the frame, hence the frame counters on the shuttles that most people have canned since then

[Rep]

Re: History of 82-70's

Originally posted by JimDorsin:
A moodel of the 1st AMF pinspotter was on display at ABC nationals in 1996 (I believe) In SLC UTah, that was there 50th b-day.. as I recal, it preceded the 30, however I may be mistaken...The oldes 70's I have come across were 1964 (as I recal anyway) model a's. they were in UTah, and were orignaly leased. up until the end of the 70's, they could not be purchaced, and AMF would charge by the frame, hence the frame counters on the shuttles that most people have canned since then

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That machine was on display when the nationals were in Tennessee also, my friend took a bunch of pics for me (he knows I'm a pinspotter freak). And both houses I work in around here both leased the machines from AMF sent in the counter readings etc then bought them. Neat stuff

[JimDorsin]

Re: History of 82-70's

that is cool...I actualy pinchased at thet tounry just to be able to say that I did....I grew up in The Salt Lake Valley....It was a great expierence.

[xxl2ockl3ottomxx]

Re: History of 82-70's

Originally posted by JimDorsin:
A moodel of the 1st AMF pinspotter was on display at ABC nationals in 1996 (I believe) In SLC UTah, that was there 50th b-day.. as I recal, it preceded the 30, however I may be mistaken...The oldes 70's I have come across were 1964 (as I recal anyway) model a's. they were in UTah, and were orignaly leased. up until the end of the 70's, they could not be purchaced, and AMF would charge by the frame, hence the frame counters on the shuttles that most people have canned since then

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It was a 4400 series 30.

[wb8yjf]

Re: History of 82-70's

There was a model 82-25 b-4 the 30's. Very few of them made, I believe less than 20 (not sure about that). They were in a house in upstate N.Y. I got this info. from a guy I worked with at AMF a long time ago. He showed me the manual (I thought he had given me that manual, but guess not). [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] It was the machine that dropped the pins in head first, then flipped 'em over to spot. It was a very cool looking machine [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] but I always wondered if it got out of wack if it would hurl the pins all over the place... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] I believe he still lives here locally, I'll see if I can track hime down &amp; get more info on the 25's.
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[TheGMan143]

Re: History of 82-70's

[wb8yjf]

Re: History of 82-70's

Thats it! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] I remember this discussion a while back. I never did either find the manual or maybe even didn't ever have it. I found the 4400 manual...I gotta see if this guy is still around!
Cooooollllll..... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Jon [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/usflag.jpg[/img]

[MikeM]

Re: History of 82-70's

My 82/70 A machine manual is dated 4/63.

Our records indicate:

Class 82/30
1952 Production 3990/3930/3900
1954 Production 4400
1956 Production 5850
1958 Production 6525 early
1960 Production 6525 late
1980 82/3000

Class 82/70
1962 Production 82/70 A- new kicker lift system
1964 Production 82/70 B
1965 Production 82/70 C Elco
1965 Production 82/70 Elco 14.5 Combo Motors
1968 Combos changed back to 12.2
1974 82/70 C23 had c23 plug instead of Elco plug
1976 First PBLs added to Production machines
1978 Production 82/70 MP

I left some details out.

Mike

[triac]

Re: History of 82-70's

Cool info Mike. Can you tell me what year the 125,000 series was produced for an 82/70? Since we got these machines used it would be kind of interesting to see how old they were before we got them.

Triac

[MikeM]

Re: History of 82-70's

1968 serial number started 103,687. The next break point listed is 1974 at 141,000.

Does this help?

Mike