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  • LifeLong Cushion Facing

    Has anyone tried one of these yet. Very durable and strong but i have one problem (their rivets)they say to put them in and put a hose clamp on the shaft of the rivet to hold in place but after a bit of bowling all the rivets are breaking.They seem to break at the clamp so we gave up on them and just threw in some vantage rivets (work great) One nice thing though is the flush mounting of the rivet heads. Has anyone had one of these seperate or split?

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    Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

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    • #3
      Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

      I have seen the facing and the rivet.......the facing looks nice.

      Call them about the rivet failure......866-belt-300.

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      • #4
        Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

        The problem ive had with those, and it MAY have just been a fluke. I lost the corner of one of the cushions. Fell off, knocked off , whatever. But since it wasnt your standard, layered cushion, i couldnt do anything about it. Great surface, makes everything look real nice, but if it comes apart AT ALL you cant repair it. Only replace it. Remember that.
        The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks.

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        • #5
          Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

          We have several installed and haven't had any problems with them. I believe that ours are of Vantage origin, but don't quote me on that?
          The only reprocussion maybe is that they are much livelier than multi-layer cushions and you could see a rise in deadwood out past the sweep?
          We don't use those rivots though, the old style work much better in securing them. A note on that, Vantage makes a superior rivot to AMF's. AMF's is too brittle so to say, and seem to break on a 3-1 ratio to the Vantage product.
          It's been awhile but I have much more to share!!!

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          • #6
            Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

            All cushion assemblies that are one piece wear.

            I still suggest putting on a PVC facing using the top 6 rivets.

            JK

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            • #7
              Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

              There is nothing wrong with the original design of a cushion assembly. Stick with the original design and you will be fine. Hey that was a cool little rhyme.

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              • #8
                Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                The price of a original style cushion is still pretty nice when compared too!!And can be repaired pretty easy !!

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                • #9
                  Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                  I also still think the original design is the best when compared to the rest.

                  Is rhyming mandatory now ?

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                  • #10
                    Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                    No rhyming here, we still use the original setup (with the reinforced facing from AMF) and they hold up good for us. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                    All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                    • #11
                      Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                      I have one lane with Lifelong rivots, three have broken already, about 2 months use. I'm replacing the ones that break with the Vantage rivots.

                      Charley
                      Charley
                      82-70's SS Chassis Omega-Tek w/expanders
                      2009 Qubica scoring 3QT's and 6 box.

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                      • #12
                        Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                        I like my old Epoxy/fiberglass planks. They are heavy but last decades

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                        • #13
                          Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                          Lifelong Engineering

                          Hey guys just wanted to let you know the following. “RIVETS” – Lifelong had three types of rivets we were field-testing over the course of the last year. Two types were a cold cure type of urethane, which we were not happy with and the third type is a hot cure formula, which is “killer”. The hot cure ones is the type Cassandra was on the road with, but it looks identical to the others. The hot cure ones are heated at 200 degrees for 16 hours during curing and can be used over and over without breaking.

                          There may be some of the others floating around and we would like to make good on them for you. If you've gotten any of those rivets and they broke call Lifelong on our toll free number at 1-877-235-8300.

                          Install tip: Use a cordless drill with a socket end to snug the hose claps. Don't try to stretch the rivet as you would an AMF type – it's not needed. Simply push the rivet through and pull down a little, put the socket over the head of the clamp screw and use the drill to push the clamp against the washer – done simple and fast that way. If you know of any mechanics that has had an issue and doesn't monitor Bowl Tech please forward this info to them.

                          There aren't many of those rivets in the field and the distributors should have all the production ones in stock at this point.

                          Cushions: This same hot cure formula is now being used on our cushions – there were only 20 of the other type of cushion in the field. Same deal - call us and we will take care of you.

                          Cushion tips: To get our one piece cushion to set flush against the plank a small section of the curtain needs to be trimmed on the bottom. The lower set of rivets will not need to go through the curtain then and the cushion will sit flush. This needs to be put in our instructions.

                          I'm sure you all understand the reasons for field testing items. The thing that bothers me is if something doesn't meet our expectations during field-testing we can replace it – but it's not me putting the labor into replacing the item, it's you, and your busy – been there – done that.

                          We now have certain centers that field test new items for us to prevent inconveniences to mechanics in the field. If any of you would like to be a field test center call us – it means free parts and incentives and sometimes an inconvenience if the item doesn't meet our standards. Usually it works out fine because we test things here. But as you know sometimes things need to be tweaked out once in the field.

                          Our new front roller ends (no hinges) have been tested in house for a long time now and will be sent out to our field test centers in the next couple weeks. This roller actuates back and forth and tracks the carpet perfectly, and with no moving parts (other than going around) – it's very cool and will increase carpet life tremendously – so look for it.

                          Thanks,
                          Jr Lanzetta
                          Chief cook and bottle washer

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                          • #14
                            Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                            JR...Could you post something when those new hinges are available ? Thanks.

                            Alan

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                            • #15
                              Re: LifeLong Cushion Facing

                              Originally posted by lifelong:
                              If any of you would like to be a field test center call us
                              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sign me up!
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