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    can somebody explain the difference between omegateks and mp's.the reason why i asked is i'm going to be starting in a new center soon and they have omegatek chassis.being so used to mp's is there any difference besides the elco plug and the board coversion fom 5 to 1.thanks for any input

  • #2
    Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

    1st question, are they 5 boards converted to Omega Tek?? or are they the Omega Tek black cahssis??

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    • #3
      Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

      ill assume your entering a house with the original SS chassis with omega-tek boards. pretty much the same, only Spotting relay is 10DC. M & M2 are still 24VAC. everythings just arranged a little different than an MP. also, with SS chassis, you can cycle the machine just by using SA to run the sweep to first guard, which is nice when working from the front.

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      • #4
        Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

        good luck buddy. Ive got MP's here with no prob. I tried the OmegaCrap chassis , and i imagine on some planet they work well, but not here. My idea of a replacement chassis for an MP, like the OmegaPoop, should be plug and play. Period. I dont want to have to replace all my wireway capacitors and reset my cam timing and blah blah to make an alleged "plug and play" chassis work. I blew up three of them bastards just applying power to them. For the money , id rather have two thousand tacos. And thats the way the cookie crumbles.
        The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks.

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        • #5
          Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

          S.S. Chassis with Omega-Tek boards are a great combonation. Omega-Tek boards are very reliable.

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          • #6
            Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

            MP's are very easily spooked by anything.

            Program zero is non existant in the SS.

            They are much easier to maintain!.

            JK

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            • #7
              Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

              Worked on both..

              NEVER had a problem with the omegas.

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              • #8
                Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                Most of my SS chassis's have the Omega-Tek boards and they work great. If you do have a problem, you send it back and just pay the $20 for handling and postage.
                "Gun control is the policy of tyrants"
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                • #9
                  Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                  Never worked with true MP's, we have SS's with Omega-Tek MK-70's and expanders. If we have 3 bad boards a season it's a lot for us, and we're a 64 lane center, can't say a bad thing about em, quite reliable
                  All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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                  • #10
                    Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                    I think the bottom line is $. Both are dependable. However, if I was building a new center and had a "no dollar difference" choice, I would chose MP. Program '0' and the C-23 plugs for scoring and mask are a plus. The Elco mask plug can develop major problems with the terminals having bad connections.
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                    • #11
                      Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                      I've never worked with MP units, so I can't say if I like them or not.... however;

                      We started to convert to Omega-Tek boards around 1991-1992 or thereabouts. Ran like a charm right out of the box. We did note that the Omegas are a bit 'pickier' about cam adjustments and switch contacts, but it was nowhere near a major hurdle to overcome. A little adjustment here and there, and they were off and running.

                      Never regretted buying them. Recently we added the MK70EX interface boards when we purchased our scoring. Again, they ran w/ no trouble or fuss right out of the box.

                      AND Omega-Tek's service has been excellent... when we got the EX boards, several of our older MK70s did not have the interface pins necessary to install the EX boards. We shipped them to Omega-Tek, and they were back in a flash ready to be used, at no costs to us for the work. They have always been willing to help us out if a question or issue came up. I'd recommend them to anyone.
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                      • #12
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                        I still cant understand where ev1 finds fault with MP's. I wrenched in 3 centers over 15 years. 18 lanes, 20 lanes, and 36 lanes with MP's. Had 1 spare in each (except the 36'er where Distric Mechanic reguired me to have 2 ready) Never had to move bowlers over chassis issues. Had to work on 1 about every 6 to 9 months...and 90% of the time they were changed by a pinnie because the lanes was having too many distributor jams....They are almost bullet proof.(Information posted herin was obtained from personal experience. Author not responcible for the unfortunate experiences of his peers. $250.00 due at signing, factory warranty aplicable. OAC. and this message was not approved by John Kerry.)

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                        • #13
                          Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                          i have worked with both. had a 40 lane MP house for 2 years, ran quite well. But to use Kings venacular, they got spooked too often for no reason. meaning just lock up, have to hit PZ. But there would really by nothing obviously wrong. no rhyme or reason. just to many unexplained hickups. Its like when a bowler sneezes, an MP locks up on the other side of the house for no reason. SS's i think would still run reliably underwater.

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                          • #14
                            Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                            Omega tek converted S/S cahssis are the best combo you can have ...with a S/S chassis! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] If you have scoring, just add the expander board and *bam* you have a quazi MP chassis. MP's are a better way to go if you have the option, easier to service (more room). As for the MP's going "wacky" now and again, there is always a reason...Omega teks design using long tested TTL logic is a great way to go. Nothin like the Craetive tech stuff..way overdesigned...You have a good combination with the omega teks! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                            BTW, King, MP's RULE! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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                            • #15
                              Re: omegatek v/s mp's?

                              Here Here Jon!!!! I wouldent mind Omega Tek so bad if we didnt keep getting the same boards back that we sent for repair that are labeled 'no problem found'. Every time, sure enough, no problem is found with us either, until we actualy put it in a chassis and it doesnt work.

                              MP's are unquestionably the best AMF (70's) pinspotter chassis availabe.

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