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  • Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

    I have finally completed my parts list and install/adjustment directions for my modified mini PBL (Sans the LBS!!!) For those interested in the detailed instructions and parts list, simply PM me, and I will send it to you. I can send it to an email addy in Word format, or I can simply copy paste it to a private message. Let me know how you want it, and leave an email addy if you want it sent somewhere else!!

    Paul

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    Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

    Jim;

    Have sent you a message about your modification.

    Thanks,

    AMF DOCTOR
    AMF DOCTOR
    The doctor makes house calls.
    http://s427.photobucket.com/home/AMFDOCTOR/index

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    • #3
      Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

      what is a mini pbl?

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      • #4
        Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

        Raymond, all a mini pbl is is the light ball sensor is taken out and replaced by a rudder drive shock. every thing else in there works the same you just don't have the convience of the lbs.
        They say that the **** rolls down hill but the smell always starts at the top.

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        • #5
          Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

          Look forward to seeing it next week Paul. From what you have told me about it on the phone,it sounds interesting.

          Look out Reno,the drunk Californians are on their way. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
          Lifes to short to stress on little things.

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          • #6
            Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

            Originally posted by AIR FORCE MECH:
            Look forward to seeing it next week Paul. From what you have told me about it on the phone,it sounds interesting.

            Look out Reno,the drunk Californians are on their way. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]
            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img]

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            • #7
              Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

              Air,

              I got the beer all 'warmed' up

              (I use warmed up only as an anecdote, as it is all on ice anecdote for DrunkFest 2004!!!!)

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              • #8
                Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                Originally posted by JimDorsin:
                Air,

                I got the beer all 'warmed' up

                (I use warmed up only as an anecdote, as it is all on ice anecdote for DrunkFest 2004!!!!)
                <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mmmmm...Cold beer...Mmmmm

                Hopefully P.J. feeds me enough to keep my stomach coated. :p
                Lifes to short to stress on little things.

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                • #9
                  Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                  My wife isnt feelin well, might have to put up with me too...lol, If I cant go camping, the Mexican food is my 2nd choice...lol

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                  • #10
                    Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                    Originally posted by JimDorsin:
                    My wife isnt feelin well, might have to put up with me too...lol, If I cant go camping, the Mexican food is my 2nd choice...lol
                    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NO TRIPPE (sp)? Who all is going to try and meet up with David Johnson? David is a great guy and has alot of different pinsetters/pinspotters under his belt.
                    Lifes to short to stress on little things.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                      I'll take a copy. This sounds interesting.

                      jason@mwisp.net

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                        Jim:

                        Just a little thing that I use instead of the spring extension or a pull down kit is a spring set up from a "B" machine. It's from their turret asy. The part #'s are for the spring it's 12-4086 and the spring hook it's 12-4087. They both cost about $12.50. The two pices screw together and now you hav an adjustable spring asy. They will fit on both the lift and the mousetrap. Another thing that you might want to do, it save a lot of words when you try to hook up the spring extension setup, is to put a medium size eye bolt in the hole where the spring goes. The turret spring fits right into it and there are no more skined knuckles.

                        AMF DOCTOR
                        The doctor makes house calls
                        AMF DOCTOR
                        The doctor makes house calls.
                        http://s427.photobucket.com/home/AMFDOCTOR/index

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                        • #13
                          Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                          Modified Mini PBL Parts List


                          Quantity Part # Description
                          ************************************************** ************************************************** *********
                          2 000-027-710 V-Belt (36 inch)
                          1 000-024-599 Adj. Rudder drive sheave
                          1 000-029-608 Shaft (bolt)
                          1 844-073-002 ½ - 13 Stover locknut
                          1 000-029-609 Spring
                          1 000-029-695 Crank Shaft
                          1 000-022-092 Crank Plate
                          4 000-029-611 Uniball Washer
                          1 V-000-029-671-A Adj. Rudder drive link


                          There are a few other parts listed in the directions, but they will be present in your current assembly, and will not need to be ordered.


                          PREP ASSEMBLY

                          Assemble the belt tension assembly (sometimes referred to as the ‘mouse trap assembly) as shown on page 64 in the AMF book, with this difference. Add the spring clip (070-011-109) to the shaft/bolt that connects to the adjustable drive sheave. (000-029-608) and use the spring extension (070-011-106) and spring (000-026-032). Make sure you use some type of bushings inside the ‘mousetrap’ spring (000-029-609) and the spring clip (070-011-109). I also suggest cutting off the end of the support shaft (000-029-605) that protrudes into the pit. This will allow removal of the tensioner without removing the ratchet assembly.

                          Conversion instructions

                          Remove the entire LBS and rudder assy. Then remove the LBS from the rudder, and re-install rudder. (make sure that the rudder is centered both top and bottom)

                          Remove crank pulley, shaft, and plate. You will need to use the smaller (kicker style) crank plate (000-022-092) and shaft (000-029-695) because the nuts from the bigger crank plate will hit the barrel of the new drive link. You will need to drill new holes (closer to the center) on the crank pulley for the new shaft/plate. I just use the plate as a template. For greater adjustment ability, offset one of the holes about ½ inch away from center. (the one on the slotted end of the crank plate)

                          The adjustable speed drive link (V-000-029-671-A) bolts directly to the rudder and to the crank plate stud. Use 4 Uniball washers (000-029-611), one on each side of the 2 Uniballs to remove some of the pressure from them.

                          The belts used are two 36 inch belts (000-029-611). By using the larger crank plate, you need a larger rear belt. (original is 32 ½ inch).

                          Adjust crank plate for maximum offset of stud from center of pulley. This is what created the delay on either side of the exit (somewhere around 2 seconds or so) Adjust the adjustable drive sheave to its largest gap (making sure the belt isn’t riding on the threads in the center of the pulley). This, in essence, makes the tensioner pulley smaller, and you have made the drive pulley bigger, thus creating the slowest speed possible. Adjust your drive link to maximum pressure. You equalize the delay on either side by making the overall length of the link longer or shorter, as needed. (loosen jam nut on rod end, and use 3/8 inch wrench to turn the shaft on the back of the link)

                          This Modification allows the paddle to push hard enough to drive out two 16lb balls, yet slow enough for the 6 lb’ers to return to exit before next paddle stroke.

                          These directions are to convert a full PBL to a modified Mini. (basically just replacing the LBS) TO convert Kickers, you must purchase a mini PBL kit, and just replace your small aluminum drive pulley with the larger PBL part (070-011-097)

                          I also recommend a few other things, to help in over all performance. Use Stahls lift pressure kit (same concept as AMF’s, either will work, I just had this # handy ) Pt # 610-070-013-T. Tuffy complete uprail cover (000-024-663-4TT). Shim the lower uprail bracket about ¼ inch toward the ball lift. And utilize the 5 inch ball lift clutch pulley to slow down the overall speed of the lift belt. (Left hand -V-000-024-811 and Right hand - V-000-024-812)

                          I wish I could add a picture of this, it really opens up the exit area, and makes things much simpler to work on. Hope this helps you out!!!!
                          If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.&quot; -W.C.Fields

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                          • #14
                            Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                            Originally posted by AIR FORCE MECH:
                            Who all is going to try and meet up with David Johnson? David is a great guy and has alot of different pinsetters/pinspotters under his belt.
                            <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jim, PJ &amp; I had lunch with David yesterday in the 50's diner at the Sands casino. Good food (thanks David), good company &amp; good conversation. Who could ask for more? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

                            I had to ride my bike to work in the rain. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]

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                            • #15
                              Re: Pauls Motified Mini PBL!!

                              Originally posted by Jim Dorsin:
                              Conversion instructions

                              Remove the entire LBS and rudder assy. &amp; send it to Dutch
                              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fixed

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