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    Hi guys! I'm new to the tech side of the sport, and I'm the only employee in an 8 lane center running old broken down 82-70's with the xl90 upgrade... is there a good starting point for me to try to learn... the biggest problem in the center is pin jams. I run fairly low lineage, because we are in an athletic club and it's members only, but I get about 15-20 a night and that's mostly on 2 machines... any help is great.

  • #2
    Re: 82/70 starting point

    There can be many reasons and in order for us to be helpful we will need a little more info on the problem. The best thing that you could do for yourself at this point is to hire a part time service tech to fix your problems as well as give you some pinchasing training.

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    • #3
      Re: 82/70 starting point

      Ostto, I think the best place to start is with the manuals,start learning the parts of the pinspotter and what thay do.If you can start getting your distributors setup and adjusted that is were most of your calls come from. Bowl tech is one of the best tools you have, there are alot of good guys on here to help you. Thanks Chuck

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      • #4
        Re: 82/70 starting point

        no better to place to learn than here. do a search, for pinjams, in AMF pinspotter forums. just picka and choose which symptoms relate to yours and go for it

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        • #5
          Re: 82/70 starting point

          Good advice Coors, do look through the posts on here, and believe me there's many on the dist lol It's easily the most touchy part of a 70 and will take time to learn. If you can actually catch the machine as it piles up and post for us exactly what it's doing I'm sure we can help ya out until you get more familiar with the machines
          All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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          • #6
            Re: 82/70 starting point

            yes, thats what we are here for. To HELP each other and to learn from each other. I have been in bowling for 51 years and still learn from people here, as well as offer advice.
            Maister.

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            • #7
              Re: 82/70 starting point

              I'm glad I have found some help on here... I've been debating the "bigger hammer" method lately with these things.

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              • #8
                Re: 82/70 starting point

                Originally posted by otto matic:
                I'm glad I have found some help on here... I've been debating the "bigger hammer" method lately with these things.
                <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">First of all, no big hammers are necessary on these machines. These machines are fragile, they need loving care not brute strength. They do like to be talked to once in a while. Do not bad mouth the machines or they may bite.


                Once you get the hang of these wonderful creatures you will enjoy your job much more.

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                • #9
                  Re: 82/70 starting point

                  You will larn a TON here! Heck, I only work on the electrical end of the machine &amp; scoring &amp; I have learned stuff about the machines I never even thought about b-4! I still get nervous around them "veg-o-matic" A-2's though.. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
                  Post anything you have a question about, these guys know their stuff and area GREAT buncha guys!
                  You have found the bolwing "Mecca" here! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                  Jon

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                  • #10
                    Re: 82/70 starting point

                    Otto: First thing (in case I forgot)... Welcome to Bowltech. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

                    Clutch Plate said it right... Skip the "bigger hammer"... although some pecussive maintenance on the machines with the 30-oz "fine tuner" certainly can relieve some stress... once you come back to your senses, you'll be stressed even more because you now have a bigger repair job. And if you beat on 'em again to relieve that stress, pretty soon you're going to have little lumps of tinfoil at the end of 60 feet of wood... you will feel better, though... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                    As for the dizzy, don't let it get to you... like Rep said... it's a trickier piece of equipment than it looks, and you are not going to know all about it in a week, or even a year... I'm not the least bit ashamed to say I've been wrenching over 15 years on machines, and I can't begin to tell you exactly how to solve every problem you will come across with the distributor. Just take it in stride... A little adjustment here or there, a little at a time, and you'll have 'em running good. Once you get them there, it'll be a lot easier to keep them that way.

                    Keep watching them and posting to us what you find them doing when they act up... we'll take it one at a time, and when you get a problem solved, you'll know how to do it if it happens again.
                    <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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                    • #11
                      Re: 82/70 starting point

                      Originally posted by otto matic:
                      I'm glad I have found some help on here... I've been debating the "bigger hammer" method lately with these things.
                      <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Otto matic. Bigger hammer = bigger headaches on bowling machines, especially 70's. Until you solve the riddle of the distributor you will never have a good running machine. If you can't get pins to the bins properly how are they gonna store in the bins, shuttle and then spot. We learned this the hard way. Work down from the dist., bins, shuttle and then eventually to the tables. This seems to be working for us.

                      Welcome to the forum and good luck.

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