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  • GeeeeeeeeeMan

    After reading your response on the dist. clutch chatter it made me think.

    Upon inspection of my pinion sleeves, they are taller that the bushings.......they must then rub the rear steel sleeve and the washer between the worm and the rear clutch plate.

    I took a grinder to the end of the sleeve so it is shorter than the assy. so as not to grind front and back. Is this what you were trying to accomplish?

    JK

  • #2
    Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

    I forsee Pile-ups and lots of them.That sleeve is suppose to be taller. The washer will now be grinding against the clutch plate. It's suppose to ride against the Sleeve.
    Even a old dog can bury a bone

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    • #3
      Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

      Agree with Old School 100%. By grinding the sleeve the washer in effect becomes the new friction disc. Spring tension has no purpose then. It is basically the same as a frozen sleeve inside the pinion.

      Triac

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      • #4
        Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

        Noted and fixed.

        Thank you.

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        • #5
          Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

          Originally posted by 82/70 king:
          Noted and fixed.

          Thank you.
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          • #6
            Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

            Not quite, King... as was said, you don't want to shorten the sleeve. All we did was put a slight "radius" on it, so there is a small gap where the thrust washer, pinion sleeve, and steel sleeve meet. We found that by doing so, a lot of the wear caused by grit and dust getting trapped in the pinion face was eliminated, and grease/oil would migrate to the gap instead of fouling up the sleeve.

            Again, if I ever manage to get some free time (which has been VERY scarce for me lately), I'll have to get some pics to show ya what I'm driving at.
            <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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            • #7
              Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

              Thanks G.

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              • #8
                Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

                When I was working at a new AMF center in Chicago, I had about 10 or 12 machines where the sleeve came from AMF shorter than the bushing, had to grind down the bushing to fix them. One good way to tell if it's long enough is to put on the thrust washer, then the pinion and sleeve, then the clutch plate, then washer, worm, washer and tighten without the clutch plate drive and spring. Then you can check it for clearance and movement.
                Charley
                82-70's SS Chassis Omega-Tek w/expanders
                2009 Qubica scoring 3QT's and 6 box.

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                • #9
                  Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

                  King I have an interesting Thing that I have done to my pinions. I put 2 roller bearing in where the sleeve normaly sits and put a thrusts bearing and washers against the D washer. Also I put a bearing and thrust washers inside the cluch where the washer normaly sits. This not only makes the cluch run smoother but with this set up you can not over tighten it. You can put 2 full turns on the clutch and it will still run as smooth as if you only put one on it. Also the bearing that is by the D washer will get lubed when you do your PM. If you want the numbers off the bearings pm me with your phone numbers and I call and give them to you.
                  They say that the **** rolls down hill but the smell always starts at the top.

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                  • #10
                    Re: GeeeeeeeeeMan

                    Quick way to test the length of the sleeve at the bench:
                    On a flat surface, set the pinion flange-side down. Install sleeve. Place the thrust washer on top, by the notches of the pinion. Press down on the thrust washer and spin the pinion. If it spins freely, then the sleeve is not too short.
                    Now, with pressure still applied to the thrust washer, grab the pinion and move it up and down. There should be minimal end play (VERY LITTLE). If excessive, then the bronze bearing's flange is worn thin. I consider more than 1/32" the max.
                    Charley: If I remember, you just had loads of fun with those 90's, didn't you?

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