lil help

[solardanl]

Can someone tell me where each of the sweep motor cord wires go to in the wireway? I had a sweep motor that kept overheating: changed chassis, stator, gearbox, checked capacitors,re-pinned C1 plug, all to no effect. The last thing I did was replace the sweep motor cord, now it doesn't run at all-- I'm thinkin I misplaced one of the wires.

82-70, mp chassis, no scoring.

[wb8yjf]

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Compare it to the machine next to this one.

[solardanl]

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ok, but if that one stops working too, it will be your fault.

[KLH]

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even thoe you checked the capictors id change them I have had instances to where the capictors ohmed good but were still bad also besure your changing the right capictors for the sweep they could be mislabeled you could be changing the table caps thinking you are changing the sweep caps.also on your cannon plug going into the motor compare the wires to the adjacent machine they may have been put in the wrong spot on the assy line most likely if you put the wires back the way they came off in the wireway then the problem is your wires are in the wrong spots on your cannon plug this is the end of the plug that plugs into your motor.

[Kat]

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Sweep motor plug to wireway (MP Chassis)

Nil: TS-1A1
X: TS-7
Y: TSE-2
Z: TSE-1
CT: TSA-4

[*70*PinMonkey]

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Originally posted by solardanl:
ok, but if that one stops working too, it will be your fault.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i love that

[solardanl]

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oh yea, also: the table runs ok. When I put table motor cable onto sweep motor it still won't run. It's a brand new motor and stator, right out of the box.

[Lafarge..]

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Sounds like a mess.

[John_Galt]

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Originally posted by Kat:
Sweep motor plug to wireway (MP Chassis)

Nil: TS-1A1
X: TS-7
Y: TSE-2
Z: TSE-1
CT: TSA-4

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Solar: Did you check this? Gotta love Kat - he can just pull this kind of stuff right out. Not sure where he pulls it out of, but he does pull it right out!

Did the Cent. Mech plate get busted during assembly? Is one of the contactors or springs on a start switch in the wrong place? Is the belleville washer in place? These things could all cause that.

Chode

[solardanl]

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yes thankyou Kat. I didn't have it wired correctly. Yes lafarge--thanks for your compassion. Now sweep motor hums but won't run, changed stator again, same prob. Belville washer is there, ...I gonna check that cent. mech again...

[Lampie]

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Although your problem is most likely in the "new" motor I give you my cat....
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It's an ugly drawing, I know, but it did help me several times so don't laugh!

[Table Head]

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To check to see if your sweep motor is good take it off the gearbox and place it on the table side and run it, this will help you so you don't have to keep changing stators. The next thing I would check is your C1 plug. You said that you repined it maby you swaped some wires. "Jest my 2 Cents worth."

[Table Head]

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Also swap that "cent mech" out for a soild state starter.

[solardanl]

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lampie i can't read that! lol. enlarging just gets blurrier(???). Can you use a pen instead of crayon? appreciate it.

[Kat]

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When the MP chassis was swapped out, did you re-use the ice cube relays from the old chassis? Or, did you pull the whole chassis (inners and all) from a known working pinsetter?

A bad M2 relay will cause this. What happens here is the solder point one of the legs becomes loose and the start winding circuit is not complete; resulting in a humming motor then throwing klixon. Don't forget this little guy is responsible for automatic switching of forward and reverse start windings of sweep motor.

If M2 checks out, take the other guys suggestions above and check condition and position of centrifugal mechanism. Do away with those if you can...they cause headaches like these.