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    ok dizzy wont put 10 pin in proper cup, just rebuilt the whole thing replaced al bearings, new belt, all lubed up and its still doing the same thing. dizzy will not stop "bouncing" from the point it gets going its really "wobbly"

    i have tried swapping dizzy's and springs problem persists. thank-you
    just feeling my way out like a blind man at an orgy.

  • #2
    Re: dizzy giving me grief

    Is it a R. H. machine?
    "Gun control is the policy of tyrants"
    Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT)

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    • #3
      Re: dizzy giving me grief

      Did you replace the U-joint ??
      Check out the whole drive rod and ball bearing's
      look over that housing the ball bearings ride in.
      Make sure the rod is not bottoming out.
      Even a old dog can bury a bone

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      • #4
        Re: dizzy giving me grief

        Originally posted by amfpinboy:
        Is it a R. H. machine?
        <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">indeed it is
        just feeling my way out like a blind man at an orgy.

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        • #5
          Re: dizzy giving me grief

          Originally posted by old-school-mechanic:
          Did you replace the U-joint ??
          Check out the whole drive rod and ball bearing's
          look over that housing the ball bearings ride in.
          Make sure the rod is not bottoming out.
          <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">U-joint was replaced, brand new rod as well.
          just feeling my way out like a blind man at an orgy.

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          • #6
            Re: dizzy giving me grief

            Is the rod to long ???

            It should never touch the bottom of the drive unit.
            Even a old dog can bury a bone

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            • #7
              Re: dizzy giving me grief

              The drive shaft should have a 1/4 SAE washer behind each ball to minimize end play. Are the rod ends worn on each end of the safety link? Is the safety link spaced out by at least one washer or an X washer where it bolts to the alum. casting on the dist. for more lateral travel? Does it waver from 3 bin to 2 bin? If it does, use a spring hook and pull the heavy spring back while it is feeding pins. If it does stablize, you can use a hog ring or two to hold the coils or a cheater spring. Often a worn worm is over-looked causing the outer disk to self tighten. there are many other things and I'm sure others here on B.T. will nail it for you....Bill
              Yeah but, We've always done it that way.

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              • #8
                Re: dizzy giving me grief

                did you check the housing weldment for wear?
                Qualified to do anything with nothing!

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                • #9
                  Re: dizzy giving me grief

                  Safety Link?
                  If at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.&quot; -W.C.Fields

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                  • #10
                    Re: dizzy giving me grief

                    Make sure turn pan is not hitting pin elevator wheel.
                    "Where are we going, and why are we in a hand basket?"

                    --Kat

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                    • #11
                      Re: dizzy giving me grief

                      Originally posted by Kat:
                      Make sure turn pan is not hitting pin elevator wheel.
                      <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">GOOD call Kat
                      I was just thinking about that when I logged back on. I see you beat me to it.
                      Even a old dog can bury a bone

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                      • #12
                        Re: dizzy giving me grief

                        I have found the housing from the gearbox gets spread out over time and it will cause the drive shaft to wobble in effect... especially at the 10 or even at the 9 position... it is because the ball bearings are not making complete contact with the inside of the housing... also cause for lost bearings and a dropped drive shaft during a league getting grease all over the place! also check your clutch tension / and clutch cleanliness, could be having too much friction and a certain spot pulling the dist at certain positions. another problem that I have found is the giude rollers on the ring tube of pin wheel and the pin wheel coasts and rubs on orientaion pan dragging the dist with it, you will notice wear marks inside the pin wheel and possibly wear through the metal if that is happening... just a few ideas! now I work on Brunswick, imagine that
                        Jay R. Dennis
                        Asst.Center Mechanic
                        Lucky Strike Bowling Center
                        Tucson Az
                        520-327-4926

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                        • #13
                          Re: dizzy giving me grief

                          now for the moment you all been waiting for,
                          the problem was as follows:
                          weldment was bent (that was fun straightining out)
                          clutch plate closest to dizzy was slightly bent as well, belt was to short (was not allowing dizzy to fully extend in time)

                          thank-you all again, and to think it only took me 7 hours to figure this one out. arent learning experiences great : )

                          thanks again everyone, couldnt have done it without you. Jeremy
                          just feeling my way out like a blind man at an orgy.

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                          • #14
                            Re: dizzy giving me grief

                            well done J-man
                            maister

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                            • #15
                              Re: dizzy giving me grief

                              just one little tip for curing (or at least reducing) dizzy wobble (also, i know you have already cured the fault, this is merley a tip)

                              unscrew the rod end from the pinwheel end of the saftey link, pump about 4 strokes of grease from a grease gun into the sleeve and screw the rod end back in.

                              this, when re-assembled will act like a fluid filled damper and arrests 90% of dizzy wobble very effectivley yet still lets the saftey link do its thing.
                              Want your old pins collecting anywhere in the UK? email me on jezsmith@aol.com

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