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    If anyone out there has a wiring diagram for an 82-70 chassis with XOP conversion, c-1 and c-2 wiring, that you can email me, PLEASE let me know.
    "When you eliminate the impossibilities, whatever is left, no matter how illogical, must be the answer"

  • #2
    Re: wiring problems

    What is a XOP conversion ??
    I didnt know there was a conversion for 82-70 that changed the wiring for c-1 and c-2. Other then doubling up on pins to help with the loads

    Sorry but they dont let me out much.
    Even a old dog can bury a bone

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    • #3
      Re: wiring problems

      Originally posted by old-school-mechanic:
      What is a XOP conversion ??
      <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's one of the baords used to turn a 5 Board Solid State to a 1 Board Solid State. Similar to Omega-Tek units.
      "Where are we going, and why are we in a hand basket?"

      --Kat

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      • #4
        Re: wiring problems

        What I have is a chassis that keeps tripping the master control switch on the mechanic's control box. I'm lost. I haven't been doing this very long and the previous mechanics didn't bother to do any electrical work. They just swapped it out and sent it off to be repaired. I have a good background in electronics but without a wiring diagram or schematic, I'm lost.
        "When you eliminate the impossibilities, whatever is left, no matter how illogical, must be the answer"

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        • #5
          Re: wiring problems

          Is the breaker tripping immediatly or after a short time? If it trips "slowly" the problem could be the KX relay. It is located on the motherboard in front of the BPP plug. IT isn't used anymore (was used with the old sparemaker computer) and can be removed w/o any problems (although it has 24 pins you have to desolder). I remove them in every chassis.

          Just a word of advise, junk them XOP's and get omega teks! Far superior to the XOP!

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          I've had enough of hope & chains.

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          • #6
            Re: wiring problems

            wb is right I have both the omega tek logic and expander cards in my chassis I havent had any problems with these cards since they been installed I still have 5 spare logic and expander cards...that was the best investment we could have ever made
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            • #7
              Re: wiring problems

              Sounds to me like there could be a wire off one of the Sweep or Table contactors and is arching to ground seen that happen once or twice.
              They say that the **** rolls down hill but the smell always starts at the top.

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              • #8
                Re: wiring problems

                I had a chassis that would humm then blow the CB. Endded up being a diode comming off of cp3. I believe the XOP board bypasses it so you can just cut it off.
                Needs more duct tape.

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                • #9
                  Re: wiring problems

                  Okay. Removed the kx relay. Clipped the diode on cp3. Still my m2 relay is lighting up like a christmas tree and then it trips the CB. I did find a bare wire coming off of T1 and fixed that but it didn't help. Could T1 be bad?
                  "When you eliminate the impossibilities, whatever is left, no matter how illogical, must be the answer"

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                  • #10
                    Re: wiring problems

                    Oh and I still need a wiring diagram for the chassis or just for c-1 and c-2. We have none. I need one bad. Working on these things without one is a pain in the butt.
                    "When you eliminate the impossibilities, whatever is left, no matter how illogical, must be the answer"

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                    • #11
                      Re: wiring problems

                      Ya didn't mention the M2 relay earlier! If you have the old style (open) contactors, check the lower contacts. Sometime they get welded together or a screw falls in 'em or one of the contacts will fall off - check that along with the wiring to the C1 plug. You can use a good chassis to compare it to. I'm P.M.ing you for an address. I can send you some paperwork that AMF supplies with their pinspotter skool [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] with the C1 &amp; C2A wiring.
                      Jon
                      I've had enough of hope & chains.

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                      • #12
                        Re: wiring problems

                        Oh yea, chances are the transformer is OK, otherwise you would blow the F1 fuse...
                        I've had enough of hope & chains.

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                        • #13
                          Re: wiring problems

                          The XOP board uses a remote relay mounted in the BE control box (wired to the sweep rev) instead of a sweep rev relay mounted in the chassis. Eliminates the need to change C1A wiring to the sweep motor.
                          It's an AMF product. I've also seen it called the BBB (better business board).
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                          This post is not an unpaid promotion of my business.

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                          • #14
                            Re: wiring problems

                            I had xop conversion for 7 years. had more problems with omega teh. no problems. I guess to each it own

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                            • #15
                              Re: wiring problems

                              Hey Beowulf,
                              I still need ur address to mail this stuff.....
                              I've had enough of hope & chains.

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