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  • 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

    is there any way to interface frame works w/mps
    i would like to remove all table wires this summer need to interface scoreing

    thanks
    Daniel

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    Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

    No. Sorry.

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    • #3
      Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

      Sorry Danial, you're stuck with two independant systems. The only communication you get between the two is the 12th frame reset.

      Owners did not do their homework before deciding on a scoring system. If they had gone to Classic, you could have but you would have had to do the wiring yourself.
      Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!

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      • #4
        Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

        Trust me if you Don't have frameworks now don't put it in with 70s I had it in pheonix and it was a headache. There is noway you can interface it.
        They say that the **** rolls down hill but the smell always starts at the top.

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        • #5
          Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

          Ask Ex Mech.....

          You could put an AMF camera on top of the Bruns camera and use a camera box then run the wires ino the chassis.

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            Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

            Brilliant thought Jerry, although you left out that he will have to pay for that out of his own pocket. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
            Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!

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            • #7
              Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

              Markrag, As Jerry stated, this setup does work, there is a center locally here around Akron Oh. that has this setup, Sto-Kent Lanes. Seems to work pretty good. I was under the impression that Framewerxs could run the VPS camera, and that supplied also suplied the Pin-Sense signal for the MP Chassis's.
              Ex-Mech
              The 45/70 Goverment is the only Goverment I trust

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              • #8
                Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

                Frameworx does run VPS cameras, but Brunswick didn't even equip it with the ability to cycle a pinsetter. Given that, do you think they'd give it the ability to take advantage of AMF's superior short-cycle abilities?

                There is no wiring from the VPS or LGP to interface with a chassis. There are many, many, many, many wires and cables required to make Frameworx work - way more than other scoring systems to be sure. And most of those other systems do interface with MP's and Expanders to do short-cycles. Still more systems at least have the ability to eliminate table wiring with contact closure that simulates strike signaling. But not Brunswick!

                I'd be interested in seeing this dual camera setup! If you can fit both cameras where they need to be on the capping, it sounds like it would work. Still has to be way more trouble than using any scoring system that was designed to interface (read: "Non-Brunswick").

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                • #9
                  Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

                  In all fairness to Brunswick, their new system Vector, does accommodate the intelligence of the AMF machines.
                  Pinspotters do not break down when they are not running!

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                  • #10
                    Re: 8270s w/mps w/frameworks can you remove table wires

                    guys you all are right frameworks sucks bad but it is what i have here to work with it was here befor me i wanted to sell system and put in accu xl but hard to find buyers thanks guys

                    Daniel

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