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  • Mouse Trap Tensioner

    I have Humpbacks and sometimes the ball gets stuck half way in the hole and the paddle can not push it out. I mechanic from up north told me he made a idler pulley set up with AMF parts to add tension to the belt so the paddle will push the ball out.Unfortunately he never sent #'s or a picture. Lifelong has a tensioner but is still down and out of stock from the hurricanes.Does AMF or Stahl's make a tensioner? Do you guys have any good ideas? It seems lane 1 hates league bowlers with old balls!
    Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

  • #2
    Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

    Does AMF 070 011 109 spring clip with bronze or enviro bushings a good place to start? Than add a spring and chain?
    Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

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    • #3
      Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

      Drill a 13/64 hole in the hanger bracket. (upper bracket) Use a diamond link chain lust large enough for a 10-24X1 or so and run the bolt thru the chain and hanger bracket with a nut. Run the chain up over the shaft for the belt idlers. Use a dist. belt spring thru the chain and fasten a strap 1/8X1 across the two machines just like you would if you had kickers for adjustment.
      Yeah but, We've always done it that way.

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      • #4
        Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

        Is the belt slipping on the pulleys? If so you can try replacing the belt(s) or add a little more tension to the spring. Or you can take some 600 grit sand paper and sand the v section of the pulley to give it more grip.

        AMF has all the parts you need for the tensioner.

        Mike
        Mike

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        • #5
          Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

          When the ball is stuck the belt is slipping on the pulleys.
          Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

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          • #6
            Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

            Do you have light ball sensors? I know from experience if they are not adjusted properly they will get jammed up and stop the belts.

            Mike
            Mike

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            • #7
              Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

              Humpbacks no light ball sensor.
              Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

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              • #8
                Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                Pertaining to my earlier post, perhaps I did not explain clearly. If you go to Lifelong's site and look at their tensioner, you will notice that it pulls nearly straight back and this,IMO, is not what you want. The belt is probably slipping on the small diameter of the aluminium pulley. This is why I said you need more upward tension. The strap I mentioned should be bolted a little higher than the 112 inch belt carpet and ball lift idler shaft. You would than use a hack saw and make two cuts about 1/4 down and 1/8 apart. Break out the scrap and file if need be so the diamond link chain slips in the notch. Suspend the spring in between in the open space so you are actually using two pieces of chain. The alum. pulley is probably worn out and needs to be replaced, but this will get you by. I have done this often, so I know it works---Any feed back from others, please do...Bill
                Yeah but, We've always done it that way.

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                • #9
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                  I would suggest to use the short belt thst usualy runs fron the tensioner to the rudder.take that short belt and run it from the elevator to the tensioner that put more tension on the belt to run the rudder better.If that dont work drill a hole in the tesioner big enough to put a spring thru prolly 3/16" get a long hooked rod and run the rod up to the frame of the machine that usualy works...
                  DEFINITION OF MANAGER IN THE 21ST CENTURY: (ADULT BABYSITTER)

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                  • #10
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                    I put up some photo's of a very simple but effective Mod.

                    no more slipping belts ! !
                    Even a old dog can bury a bone

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                      You can use a clip from AMF and an adjustable long turret belt spring from brunswick ....I will post a pic......
                      Peanut

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                      • #12
                        Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                        Thanks for all the great help!
                        Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                          What type of pulley &amp; shock are you using? I use the Vantage Super Rudder Drive Link PN: V000-029-671-A and the speed reduction pulley that isn't adjustable. Lifelong makes them and I think Quality also. Not sure which ones I get, I just tell my parts distributor what it is and give me whatever's in stock. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] I found that the adjustable ones eat up the belts if you slow them down enough to where they will let 6 lbs. balls in and not throw them back out. I use maximum spring tension on the drive link, otherwise it may not be able to push out heavy balls. I've had them stuck where there isn't a pin in the door but 2 balls are in about half way and the rudder can't push them out and the belt isn't slipping. The only time I get slippage is when some gearbox oil drops on the belt. I'm getting those taken care of I hate leaks.
                          Charley
                          82-70's SS Chassis Omega-Tek w/expanders
                          2009 Qubica scoring 3QT's and 6 box.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                            Using the speed reduction pulley that came from Lifelong and spring loaded drive link assy that come from Lifelong too. I made a tensioner and if the pinchasers are writing down the calls and not sitting up front it seems to be working. Also the belt is chewed up and will put a new one on.
                            Well we're safe for now. Thank God we're in a Bowling Center.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mouse Trap Tensioner

                              Posted by Brusamf:
                              If you go to Lifelong's site and look at their tensioner, you will notice that it pulls nearly straight back and this,IMO, is not what you want.
                              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The picture on our website is a little deceiving, I had to take it looking down the chain in an effort to show as much as possible. Our tensioner actually pulls up and out, the chain is anchored about 2 feet above the mouse trap. Of course, there are a number of other mods you can use to add more tension.

                              Sean

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