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    Where should I start looking when the table spots a rack of pins on a set already standing? got a call to spot pins, machine was in first ball. Cycled it, shut it down with sweep down. Knocked over pins, turned it on and it dropped another rack on top. After the bowlers were moved, I tried just cycling it. On first ball every time I cycled the sweep would drop and it would set another rack down on top of the first.
    Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

  • #2
    Re: Table problem

    Swap out the spotting relay in the chassis. Sometimes when they go they'll cause the machine to always spot pins
    All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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    • #3
      Re: Table problem

      Is the respot solenoid engaging every time it set's a full rack ?

      I've seen the respot arm hold the latch assy down. Causing this same thing too happen.
      Even a old dog can bury a bone

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      • #4
        Re: Table problem

        I'm with old school on this sounds like your spot latch is getting stuck on somthing or is not letting go after spotting.
        There is always more to life, but would someone tell me what it is!

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        • #5
          Re: Table problem

          It could also be the chassis. If so, the spot relay as mentioned by Rep, or the PCB if you have MK70. Try another SP relay first since this is the easiest. Then swap the chassis first to see if problem moves. If it does move, swap PCB to see of it moves again.

          Triac

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          • #6
            Re: Table problem

            Have you adjusted anything prior to this on the problem machine? Sometimes I catch my self afterwards when I deem a machine "good to go" status only to find that I had miss adjusted somthing that afected another part of the machine that was related.
            There is always more to life, but would someone tell me what it is!

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            • #7
              Re: Table problem

              You might also check to see if the spring under the link assbly thats attached to the spot solenoid isn't broke or missing.
              SGT
              U.S. Army/AVN
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              • #8
                Re: Table problem

                bad spotting relay
                DEFINITION OF MANAGER IN THE 21ST CENTURY: (ADULT BABYSITTER)

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                • #9
                  Re: Table problem

                  SP relay. If the latch was stuck..cups would tip but the table wouldn't go all the way to the deck.The dog must come out of the notch in the eccentric to go to the deck.

                  A bad selonoid might do that.Or some kind of bind in there..
                  I never had a "10" ;..but ,one night after closing,..I did five " 2's" !

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                  • #10
                    Re: Table problem

                    If have 2 solenoids, it may just be a broken respot solenoid pin (where the solenoid connects to the hook) if not, make sure the link that goes from the shutle stop arm to the spot hook is connected.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Table problem

                      Bad spotting relay.....HM said it hasn't happened in 6 years
                      Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Table problem

                        So answer me this does the table go down like it whats to spot pins but doesn't and the pin cups fall back to their resting place or does it actually go down and spot the pins like normal working machine?

                        Just becasue it hasent' happened in 6 years doesn't mean it won't ever happen. It's just a part to check and rule it out during your investigation, the more suspects you rule out the closer you will become to finding the culpret and it's partners in crime.

                        Boy, I think I watch too much CSI on T.V.
                        There is always more to life, but would someone tell me what it is!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Table problem

                          are you using pindication? if so, a wire knocked off a respot cell or a broken ground wire could also cause that.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Table problem

                            The rack was coming down and setting a new rack of pins no matter what ball it was on. Once that relay was replaced, the problem was resolved.....thanks everyone
                            Failed safety course.Question #1:In case of fire what steps do you take? Apparently 'Friggin long ones!" is the wrong answer.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Table problem

                              1st things 1st....how many somenoids do you have? is there only 1 (this will have a carb link similar to the respot linkage, on the left as you are facing the front end, going to a big roll pin in the spot hook) or is there a second solenoid connecting to that respot hook?

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