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    I have an interesting problem with one of my AMF Ball Returns. Im not sure what the model number is, C-90 (i think) or something like that....

    When we switch it on in the morning, it runs backwards. We have to stop it, and then switch it back on again while at the same time manually spinning it the right way to get it goin the right way.

    I have Brunswick Machines and the Ball Returns run independantly of them.

    Any Ideas?

    Cheers

    Rob
    Everyone makes mistakes, thats why God gave us the 'DELETE' key!

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    Re: AMF Ball Return

    The motors are reversable, but shouldn't run either way. Try spinning one of the others the wrong way and turning it on.
    I assume it will pick up balls once running correctly.
    Double check the wiring for correct voltage and rotation, and if is wired right -
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    • #3
      Re: AMF Ball Return

      It will pick up balls once its runnign the right way...

      it was working fine one day, then the next day this started happening and its happened ever since...anyone got any diagrams/manuals for it...will change the motor if i can find a spare.

      Cheers

      Rob
      Everyone makes mistakes, thats why God gave us the 'DELETE' key!

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      • #4
        Re: AMF Ball Return

        Ahhh haaa. Sounds familiar.

        This is a problem with which I have been stuggling with. In the centre where I work we have Profile ball returns made by AMF. The motors are made by "Franklin Electric". They have a habbit of starting up in the wrong direction.
        This is due to the fact that the centrefugal switch fails prematurally. I have spoken to the main UK AMF motor repair man, and he has told me that he has told AMF time and time again about these motors being useless, but as usual AMF does nothing about it.
        If it is the franklin electric motor, it is hard to repair yourself, unless you have the correct tools, as when taking it apart, the fan causes the main problem to remove.

        If you do have the Profile ball return's you can use a c-90 motor which can be bought cheaply off of Complete Leisure or Embassy Services.
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        • #5
          Re: AMF Ball Return

          We had it happen when a cap went bad.

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          • #6
            Re: AMF Ball Return

            I found a few spare PCBs in the backroom today so I will try one of them tomorrow..I will try swapping a motor over aswell

            Rob
            Everyone makes mistakes, thats why God gave us the 'DELETE' key!

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            • #7
              Re: AMF Ball Return

              This happens on our s/pik motors if the centri switch get dirty, the cap fails, or the start widing fails. Without a working start circuit, the motor starts in a random direction (or not at all sometimes).

              Our c-90 motors apparently can't be taken apart easily (we haven't needed to try though, but we were warned - don't really know what that's all about).

              Andrew.

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              • #8
                Re: AMF Ball Return

                Right on Alastair centrifugal switch on Franklin and capacitor on Baldor.
                maister

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                • #9
                  Re: AMF Ball Return

                  I installed back end SSSSes on some failing motors and they are still running strong. Once you figured it out how to connect, it is quite easy to do.


                  bpm

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                  • #10
                    Re: AMF Ball Return

                    I agree with BPM, installing the SSSS helps a great deal with these problems.
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                    • #11
                      Re: AMF Ball Return

                      Anybody got a wiring diagram to install ssss? I have this going on. Only on one pair.

                      THANKS


                      BAMM

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                      • #13
                        Re: AMF Ball Return

                        THANKS!!!
                        I put it on the other day and no problems.

                        BAMM

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