CYCLE START WIRING PATH HELP PLEASE

[daforshey Members Find all posts View Profile Close daforshey]

can anyone tell me the plug in the chassie the cycle start goes through.also does it go to any of the terminal blocks underneath.
the reason iask this is i have a lane that quit cycling last night while i was working on it. i did the obvious and changed chassie with another lane and still no cycle. but after changing it again, with the orignal, it started to work again. i know i didn't fix the problem, just got it to work. tring to stop this from happening again during a legue. anyone have the flow diagram, that a avagrage john doe can read, that you could get to me
thanks deane

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Re: CYCLE START WIRING PATH HELP PLEASE

On a '70, heavy-draw line voltage is all carried through the C1, and signal/control lines go through C2A.

If you have the black AMP (square) connectors, the links below are the pinouts for the plugs:

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The cushion cycle switch really just parallels the backend "cycle" button and the 10th frame button from the front.

[Andrew Members Find all posts View Profile Close Andrew]

Re: CYCLE START WIRING PATH HELP PLEASE

Originally posted by TheGMan143:
The cushion cycle switch really just parallels the backend "cycle" button...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We have Accuscore (plus) so the PBC (cycle button on the BE control box) does not parallel the cushion start switch anymore (it used to). I assume most setups are similar these days otherwise if you cycle from the back, it will score - ??

Anyway, the cushion start switch circuit is as follows on our machines:

cycle input (motherboard),
C2A-14,
(PBC-2*),
SS-com,
SS-NC,
SWS-1,
SWS-3,
(PBC-1*),
TS-14,
SA-NO,
SA-COM,
TS-15,
C2A-312,
chassis ground.
(*PBC connections are removed for scoring conversion).

The parallel connection to 10th frame switch occurs inside the chassis (C2A 31 and 32 from the A&amp;MC box connect to TS-14 via C2A-27, and to C2A-14 respectively).

When you changed the chassis, the movement of the C2A plug probably pushed a pin in (one of the C2A pins above).

Cheers,
Andrew.

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Re: CYCLE START WIRING PATH HELP PLEASE

thank you so very much, we do have 70's with accuscore plus scoring. any one know anything about the amf ball readers[ infra red sensors] as far as how to set them up on the lanes' reflecters, adjustments ect. after the syn lanes were installed along with gutters and capping, we have had nothing but trouble with these sensors. esp machines cycling on there ouw

[Lafarge.. Members Find all posts View Profile Close Lafarge..]

Re: CYCLE START WIRING PATH HELP PLEASE

Deforsey the Amf detecters have to be installed to where there is no vibration at all. Me and Jbees had a problem with the ones I had in Pheonix and had to bolt them down to the concrete and had to make sure the did not touch the kickbacks at all. Just a test you can do. Turn on a pair and unplug your sweep and table on say the even lane and then take a pin and hit the common side kick back simulating a ball thrown. If you have the same problem I had this will cause the odd lane to cycle thus having a bad or loose mount.