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    we have a machine that the head pin slips through the bins...we replaced the pin guides on the shuttle..and we have replaced the roller guides on the still slips through just as much there an adjustmebnt that needs made or please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • #2
    Re: need help quick

    you might want tot check the table to bin shuttle hieght


    • #3
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      Check your shuttle front to back distance that it is not to far forward. Also, you can drill a hole in your #1 guides to drop the rear so that the rear bearing is level with the #5 butt guide.



      • #4
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        Your description of the problem is rather vague.

        Can you give us a detailed explanation of the sequence of events?

        Is this pin falling through when the #1 Bin Pocket is empty and the distibutor feeds a pin to that pocket?

        Does the head of the pin hit the pin butt# 5 and cause it to flip up and go through the shuttle?

        I would check my distributor height, too high or too low can cause problems in this area.

        Or do you have one or two pins falling through the shuttle when the table cycles for a respot?
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        • #5
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          did some one replace the distributor belt if so
          it maybe too short.
          it's my guess that this is happening after a strike
          if the belt was not replaced look to see if the
          metal kickback has come loose from the "A" fram and
          moved back to far that's if your distributor is
          not too high


          • #6
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            ok it happens when the bin is empty....and no it dosent happen on just randomly occurs.....its really driving me nuts cause its starting to cause jams


            • #7
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              As Triac said. Lower your #1 pin guides. Drill a hole above the existing rear hole about 1/2 inch.This will level off your guides and make it nearly impossible for the pin to slip through. It WILL solve your problem.


              • #8
                Re: need help quick

                is your #1 bin butt stop in good condition
                if it is I would remove the (TOP 4) roller bearings
                at the #1 pin guide rails this will let the pin
                land flat as it is delivered to the bin



                • #9
                  Re: need help quick

                  The 70 machine was designed back when pins were less than 3#'s.( [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] Don't see any changes in the 90's pin delivery system) You do what you have to do... have several machines with the #1 guides laying almost flat. Others with top pair of rollers missing on the #1 guide. Use what works... Gooood Luck!!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
                  Slow down, take a second, NOWFIXIT!!!!!!


                  • #10
                    Re: need help quick

                    I match the angel of the HP rails to the angle of my trip fork when its in the down position so you get (basicly) one straight ramp. This would not work as well if you like your dist higher. I usualy set my dist height so the trip just clears the butt guides (when down) by about 1/2 to 1 inch.


                    • #11
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                      What contion are your strings in. I've noticed on one of my machines the other day that up by where they mount to the front channel the have almost completely broken off. thus causing the the whole bin assembly to become longer where the pins set. just a thought, I've got to go repair mine see ya'!
                      There is always more to life, but would someone tell me what it is!


                      • #12
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                        At one center i was at--this was a huge problem.
                        happened mostly on strike cycles but could happen very random also.

                        What we did was take an old piece of carpet, about 2 inches wide by 5 inches high and contact cement it to the 5 pin butt guide with about 2 inches of it sticking up higher than the top of the 5 pin butt guide.

                        What this did, is it prevented the head of the head pin from bouncing off the 5 butt guide and getting too vertical as it is sliding down the 1 bin chute rails.

                        This little mod saved many headaches after doing all the lanes this way


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