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    helping out a local center...they just installed scoring and have 70's w/mp chassis...still have the table cable but just wire nut on gripper protection switch wires...would like to remove table wiring...could someone post procedure be simple please as i work on brunswicks
    thanks

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    Re: removing table wiring

    If they have pin count data controlling the chassis, all you need to do is ground one respotcell wire on the board next to the capacitors.
    Gripper protection - was more important on the 82-70 A and B that has a respot solenoid.
    The new machines I've put in lately from AMF don't have them.
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      speaking of that board next to capacitors, don't forget to pair up the 2 fat yellow wires together. this is the other side of the gripper circuit going to the chassis. the table won't come down otherwise.

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        After you have made wire changes that Ted & TCP said to make,you can then remove the entire table cable, the plug on the table, and all of the table wiring and file 13 it and don't look back. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
        People tell me I'm indecisive, but I just don't know...

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          Will this always make the pinsetter "SEE" pins on the 1st ball, whether there are pins or not, and reset a full or empty rack (i.e. no strike cycle)? I tried this after our Qubica install on ONE lane to see how well it worked. I did not like resetting an empty pin deck with the reset switch up front and the table coming down, grabbing no pins, and resetting no pins. Is there a way around this?, or is this the way the chassis sees things? Like the idea...
          Cheers,
          Steve

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          • #6
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            Thats the only disavantage of this is that if the scoring doesn't tell the machine a strike was bowled, the table runs a normal 1st ball cycle with no pins standing.So you have to push the button twice.But, you will never get a false "X" cycle which use to be hel on cups and respot cells.
            People tell me I'm indecisive, but I just don't know...

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            • #7
              Re: removing table wiring

              With Qubica, you'll have to have the XLMP interface to send pin fall data to the machine chassis. than it will work as intended.
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              • #8
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                Ted, is the XLMP the same as the "F" box? I have Qubica scoring and table wiring out of the loop.
                People tell me I'm indecisive, but I just don't know...

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                • #9
                  Re: removing table wiring

                  Originally posted by TA2:
                  Ted, is the XLMP the same as the "F" box? I have Qubica scoring and table wiring out of the loop.
                  <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No... the XLMP is the little controller (about the size of a pack of cigarettes) that is usually located above the machines on the curtain wall near the ball downtrack... each box serves 1 pair. There should be a group of small multiconductor wires that run from each machine (1 to each machine), and the third is the data cable back to the scoring. It should also have a little red/green indicator LED on it. The F Box is farther up the loop and acts as a 'concentrator' for the signals coming from the machines.
                  <span style="font-style: italic">Educatio est omnium efficacissima forma rebellionis</span>

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                    10-4 Gman on the XLMP box.We have those ,didn't know what they were called. Thanx.
                    I wasn't clear my post about not running a X cycle. I was refering to when you have to cycle the machine with the tenth frame sw.or cycle button on the rear panel. A non-scoring cycle.With one repot wire grounded, you have to cycle twice.... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                    People tell me I'm indecisive, but I just don't know...

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