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    I have 4 chassis which don't work the first and second ball function(8270's). I have Brunswick Frameworxs which needs this to work when no-tap bowling is on. An AMF rep said the X-ray Relay (JRM-10110) was the problem. AMF doesn't sell these any more. Does anybody have these for sale or know what direction to go to find them ? Thanks !!

  • #2
    Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

    I've have never heard of an X relay! I "think" they were referring to the KX relay which is a square silver relay mounted next to the BPP connector. If that is correct, just remove it. It was used for sparemaker functions back in the day - you don't need it at all. At this point it is more of a problem than a help. It will be apin to remove w/o a decent de-soldering tool, though.

    Jon

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    I've had enough of hope & chains.

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    • #3
      Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

      The X-ray relay is next to the tachyon emitter diodes (just behind the Heisenburg compensator).

      I have a diagram somewhere on my LCARS terminal - I'll see if I can upload it.

      [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

      Did you mean the 1st and/or 2nd ball lights don't turn on? Does the machine cycle/operate perfectly other than that?

      Cheers,
      Andrew.

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      • #4
        Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

        If you are still using the stepper relay chassisyou could have a bad SK relay or a bad klixon. The only other thing involved is stepper C.

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        • #5
          Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

          I got one or two of them Heisenburg compensators - new in the box. Maybe it is the confribulator... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/rotflol.gif[/img] Good one Andrew!

          Seriously though,
          Most scoring only looks for the 2nd ball light - or at least the signal to the bulb (voltage).
          I've had enough of hope & chains.

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          • #6
            Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

            Good point Tall Paul!! I didn't even consider the stepper chassis - my bad....
            I've had enough of hope & chains.

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            • #7
              Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

              Originally posted by Andrew:
              The X-ray relay is next to the tachyon emitter diodes (just behind the Heisenburg compensator).

              I have a diagram somewhere on my LCARS terminal - I'll see if I can upload it.

              [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
              <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Isn't that right next to the flux capacitor or something? [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
              All I want in life is to turn wrenches and climb around pinsetters/pinspotters again :/

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              • #8
                Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                Originally posted by Andrew:
                The X-ray relay is next to the tachyon emitter diodes (just behind the Heisenburg compensator).

                I have a diagram somewhere on my LCARS terminal - I'll see if I can upload it.

                [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

                Did you mean the 1st and/or 2nd ball lights don't turn on? Does the machine cycle/operate perfectly other than that?

                Cheers,
                Andrew.
                <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LCARS:

                Library Computer Access and Retrieval System--I thought I was the only one who knew what that was!



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                • #9
                  Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                  Originally posted by TABLEJAM:
                  Library Computer Access and Retrieval System-- I thought I was the only one who knew what that was!
                  <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The world's seemingly small when on the Internet. And thanks for the great LCARS pics, Tablejam.

                  I'm still waiting for Microsoft to make an LCARS interface for Windows (a proper one, where I can surf the net from my astrometrics lab [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] ).

                  Andrew.

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                  • #10
                    Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                    The machine works just fine when not in the no tap mode. I'm told the frameworxs functions thru the first and second ball lights which is operated thru this relay. It does look tough to take out but I am not sure it will help with the scoring. Thanks for your responses !

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                    • #11
                      Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                      I'm still not sure what relay you might be referring to.

                      On an 8270 Solid State (5 board or Omega Tek or XOP) or MP chassis, the lights are not operated via a relay.

                      I doubt that the KX relay has much to do with it (it only turns on on pin read and does barely more than connect the pin read outputs from #4 board to the external plug). Has nothing to with 1st and 2nd ball lights, which are triac controlled, not relay controlled.

                      When you said "it looks tough to take out" which realy were you referring to?

                      Are you possibly referring to a scoring-controlled 'short cycle' relay? What boards do you have in your chassis?

                      I'm confused (sorry!) :-).
                      Andrew.

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                      • #12
                        Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                        Originally posted by Andrew:
                        </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TABLEJAM:
                        Library Computer Access and Retrieval System-- I thought I was the only one who knew what that was!
                        <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The world's seemingly small when on the Internet. And thanks for the great LCARS pics, Tablejam.

                        I'm still waiting for Microsoft to make an LCARS interface for Windows (a proper one, where I can surf the net from my astrometrics lab [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] ).

                        Andrew.
                        </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would like a good LCARS interface as well. I have found a lot of great pics, and some awesome screensavers (a lot of which were used as LCARS programs running in the background of a lot of scenes in ST Voyager), at LCARS COM

                        I run a few of these as screensavers. It's cool because it really looks like the computer is doing something but is really doing nothing at all.

                        Here is the link to the downloads
                        LCARS download gallery

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                        • #13
                          Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                          Originally posted by TABLEJAM:
                          Library Computer Access and Retrieval System-- I thought I was the only one who knew what that was!
                          <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">nope..... but, I am the guy witht he communicator tattoed on my chest, so it is assumed that I would understand where you were going.....lol

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                          • #14
                            Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                            It is a silver box shape relay with JRM-10110 on it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: S S Chassis X-ray relay

                              That IS the KX relay. You don't need it in the chassis at all. It was used for the sparemaker computer back in the 60's. It is hard to remove w/o a decent solder sucker or desoldering tool.
                              I've had enough of hope & chains.

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