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  • Pins too far forward on GSX

    I have a couple of machines that set the pins a little too far forward for my liking. I have adjusted the vertical stop bolt inward as far as It will go. It almost seems like the whole machine needs to be moved rearward. Anyone encounter this before?


    billman
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    Originally posted by billman View Post
    I have a couple of machines that set the pins a little too far forward for my liking. I have adjusted the vertical stop bolt inward as far as It will go. It almost seems like the whole machine needs to be moved rearward. Anyone encounter this before?


    billman
    Many, many times. And you are correct--if you have just about bottomed out the vertical limit bolt, which is none too desirable as you will increase the amount of crush on the detection paddles, you will have to move the frame toward the foul line. All you do is loosen the four bolts that secure the frame to the kickbacks/ballbox, remove any bolts that may tie the machine you're trying to move to a neighboring machine, get a chunk of 2X or small piece of lane panel, place it against the front edge of the catwalk, and start pounding one side, then the other side to kind of "walk" the machine back. Since you are moving the frame rearward rather than forward you will not have to take tension of the elevator drive belt or remove the t-band drive polycord. You may be surprised how easy these frames can be moved.

    Oh...and do it with the table at the lowest position so you can see how far you need to go.
    So speaketh the Gospel of The Beer Can

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    • #3
      Might check your table tube guides first. I've had a couple worn out that allowed the pins to be off spot by almost a 1/2 inch.
      Mike

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      • #4
        I agree with MCSS, check the tube guides first.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MCSS View Post
          Might check your table tube guides first. I've had a couple worn out that allowed the pins to be off spot by almost a 1/2 inch.
          Good call. I've seen them bent enough to cause what he's seeing, and I can see how they could be out of level enough to set pins way off spot. Of course in the case of the guide tubes bending it was the result of one of the idler gears breaking and allowing the table to dip down on the left-hand side severely.

          Devil's Advocate here--if the guide tubes are just worn wouldn't it be cheaper and faster to just move the Gamesetter frame rather than replace the guide tubes?
          So speaketh the Gospel of The Beer Can

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          • #6
            Originally posted by davegargamel View Post

            Devil's Advocate here--if the guide tubes are just worn wouldn't it be cheaper and faster to just move the Gamesetter frame rather than replace the guide tubes?
            What I've noticed is sometimes they will be on spot and sometimes off a lot, just depends how much the table is rocking back and forth. I've also replaced a few guides that were worn just to come back in a week to find them worn out again, no matter how much grease I put on the tubes and guides. Tried to adjust the tubes to get them more level, but doesn't seem to help. I'm thinking the guides should be replaced with the rollers that are below the guides, which would allow you to plumb the tubes a lot easier.
            Mike

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            • #7
              Dave, used your method and got the pins about 1/4 inch towards the rear and used the ajusting bolt to bring them back. Took a lot of the pressure off of the detector plate! Great tip.

              billman
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              • #8
                Originally posted by billman View Post
                Dave, used your method and got the pins about 1/4 inch towards the rear and used the ajusting bolt to bring them back. Took a lot of the pressure off of the detector plate! Great tip.

                billman
                Glad it worked out for you, Sir. These machines seem to like to move a bit. Or maybe it's just the install, I don't know. I was at one center where I had to move 22 out of the 44 machines we had within the first six months of their installation.
                So speaketh the Gospel of The Beer Can

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