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  • wire lube for lift rod covers.

    Anybody ever try a wire lubricant for putting on lift rod covers? I think i recall some saying that they have. Seems like it would work good without ill effecting the covers. Its made to work on rubber and vinyl wire insulation



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    http://www.homedepot.ca/product/prem...1-quart/918708

    I currently use the grey brunswick foam covers and use the compressor to help put them on....but they can be a bit of a pain for the last section of cover where you can no longer use the compressor.
    Nick

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    The use of any kind of liquid on lift rod covers is a big NO-NO. The reason is that the lift rod covers will absorb the liquid and eat away the insides, which will destroy the covers.

    If you want to use a lubricant to install lift rod covers, the recommended dry lubricant is either baby powder or talcum powder. Then use the air compressor to inflate the lift rod cover on the rods.

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      nick we use the brunswick gray also we use powder and compressor once on all the way you can.
      than what we do is we took a blow gun with tube on it we flatend the tube for about 3 inches but not totaly closed than shove it in opiset end than send the air and push on cover.
      this works great the easiest we have ever done
      Mama said bowlers are ornery because they got all them balls and conditions are never good enough

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      • #4
        Originally posted by obdll View Post
        nick we use the brunswick gray also we use powder and compressor once on all the way you can.
        than what we do is we took a blow gun with tube on it we flatend the tube for about 3 inches but not totaly closed than shove it in opiset end than send the air and push on cover.
        this works great the easiest we have ever done
        would it be possible to post a pic of this thing you have made
        Nick

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        • #5
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          this is what i use
          Mama said bowlers are ornery because they got all them balls and conditions are never good enough

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          • #6
            Originally posted by obdll View Post
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            this is what i use
            Now thats quick...thanks for the pictures.

            I have one of those blow guns laying around, so I will have to give that a try.....but if it doesn't work of me you owe me a new blow gun...kidding

            thanks for the pic!
            Nick

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            • #7
              we put in the opesite end of the cover send air and push to cover on just squeze the end with hand and wire tie the other and on it goes
              Mama said bowlers are ornery because they got all them balls and conditions are never good enough

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SoCalTom View Post
                The use of any kind of liquid on lift rod covers is a big NO-NO. The reason is that the lift rod covers will absorb the liquid and eat away the insides, which will destroy the covers.

                If you want to use a lubricant to install lift rod covers, the recommended dry lubricant is either baby powder or talcum powder. Then use the air compressor to inflate the lift rod cover on the rods.

                I really don't think that the urethane liftrod products will absorb or be ill effected by the wire lube....oil seems to have no effect on them at all.
                Nick

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                • #9
                  lol i actuly find the blowgun more useful now for blowing out the condencers in kitchen bar and snack bar much nicer stream of air
                  Mama said bowlers are ornery because they got all them balls and conditions are never good enough

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mechanick View Post
                    I really don't think that the urethane liftrod products will absorb or be ill effected by the wire lube....oil seems to have no effect on them at all.
                    That should be due to the lift rod covers being cleaned on a periodic basis. You can easily remove any oil on the outside of the covers; but not the inside.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SoCalTom View Post
                      That should be due to the lift rod covers being cleaned on a periodic basis. You can easily remove any oil on the outside of the covers; but not the inside.
                      Im not sure if you have had experience with the Brunswick grey urethane foam lift rod covers, but they do not seem to be affected by oil at all. I don't wipe the outside of my covers and still they have not been affected by oil. They do not swell over time like the gum rubber covers because they do not absorb oil (that is the novelty about this product; they will not swell, weaken and split). I have some that have been on the lanes for 9+ years, and they have not swollen from oil absorbtion and that is without removing oil from the outside.

                      The wire lube is not an oil based product. It is a water based gel I believe. It would eventually dry up shortly after being installed. But if the urethane covers do not absorb oil, I doubt they will absorb water.


                      A couple of things I don't like about the talcum powder is the mess it makes, the fact that a lot of the time it gets blown out of the cover and the cover is hard to put on, and if the talcum powder is left in the rod covers they will move around a lot after they are installed and you can get gaps between the lift rod top caps and the covers.

                      Im going to try obdll's suggesting with the blow gun. I think it will work....but something like the wire lube may make the job even that much easier.
                      Last edited by Mechanick; 02-14-2012, 02:09 PM.
                      Nick

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                      • #12
                        i use the wire lube, dries fast. with the proper prep work and a liberal amount of lubricant you can have the new covers on fairly quickly. just remember to put some inside the cover (on both ends) and on the rods themselves. air does help to get the cover over the top elbows.

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                        • #13
                          I use baby powder and compressed air to install the urethane foam covers from Brunswick, I use the same blower pictured above also...but I don't flatten the end. Just stick the end inside the cover. Works great. I have also used a needle that you would use to inflate a football. It too works great but is not as durable as the blow gun shown above.

                          As far as anyone using "liquids" to install lift rod covers. It is not the damage to the lift rod cover you should concern yourself with...it is the damage to the lift rods themselves that should worry you.



                          This is the inside of the cover and the lift rod is visible...through the rust of course. These lift rod covers were only on for about 4 years before we trimmed them back and found this.
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                          • #14
                            Talc is best, but only in the shop. LOL
                            rfm

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mechanick View Post
                              A couple of things I don't like about the talcum powder is the mess it makes, the fact that a lot of the time it gets blown out of the cover and the cover is hard to put on, and if the talcum powder is left in the rod covers they will move around a lot after they are installed and you can get gaps between the lift rod top caps and the covers.
                              Nick, talc doesn't make the mess as you've mentioned. Use enough to make the lift rods slippery, and the covers will go on easily.

                              I have always used a small amount on a rag, and rubbed it onto the lift rods. Talc the rods as you go. Don't try to do the rods all at once, and you'll eliminate the mess. In fact, just talc the difficult parts and the rest is a piece of cake.

                              One more comment. On some lift rods, you don't have to use any lubricant at all. Just an air compressor will do the job by itself.

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