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    I went back and read many posts on this before I posted. Broke bearing on clutch reset lever. Plunger linkage jammed in and caused it. Have old style lever (3400 ser.) It was bent with a few other pieces. Inspected repaired replaced. I tried to raise the dashpot stop collar to make it recycle on its own. No go. Linkage appears ok. Checked spring tube (180). Took drip pan off. She cycles perfect except at 270, 1st and 2nd, stop moves under latch, clutch stops. Have 1/4 gap with 180 adj. Sol. trigger is free and adj. Read that some take spring from dashpot? I tried that as I held my breath! I'm sure the eng. put that on for something. As the pig says "WHEEE!"

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    Just out of curiosity, did you check to make sure the dashpot plunger is moving in and out freely with no binding? I've never heard of anyone else besides myself having this issue (go figure), but I've had to remove two of them in the last four years due to a very very slight bend hanging it up and causing some odd intermittent cycling issues. Don't know exactly how that happens, but IMHO it's worth the five seconds it to check it out just to be sure. I could conceivably see if it's bent it may not freely go in all the way, potentially causing a stop.

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    • #3
      It sounds like you need to do a clutch adjustment, both by the nuts on the input shaft and with the adjustment on the bottom of the clutch to get it to stop at 0. Latch falling under the roller at aprox 270 is normal, I think it falls under slightly past 270. Perhaps when the reset lever was broken and or bent someone adjusted something to try and correct the issue and it bandaid'ed the problem for a little while and now that you corrected the real problem those adjustments are throwing everything off.
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      • #4
        Rake link is right thru the 4 to 1 shaft per book. I thought that might be the problem also, but looks good where she is. Did not look at the dashpot plunger. i am starting to wonder if the reset arm may have been bent upwards, beside twisting to side. I tried the dashpot adj. per book to no avail. Do not understand why she will not cycle by itself with stop collar all the way up? Will try again later. Thanks.

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        • #5
          Checked plunger tonight. Appears to move freely. I adj rake sweep link up just to see what would happen, no change. At 270 or so the stop rotates under the release lever and disengages. It is a solid stop too. I looked at position of components on mach next to problem child. They are almost the same. I need to step back and have a different set of eyes look at this.

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          • #6
            Adjust your 180 interlock link, the 180 link is dropping too far out of the actuator link when the deck is setting new pins (long link releases).

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            • #7
              When it stops at 270 degrees...is the clutch latch under the roller on the end of the clutch reset lever?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steve Stafford (JBEES) View Post
                When it stops at 270 degrees...is the clutch latch under the roller on the end of the clutch reset lever?
                It sure was. I have to give a big shoutout to Ken from Bowling Green. That extra set of eyes made the difference. The clutch reset lever was indeed bent upwards, which allowed the 270 stop. We changed, and away she went. The next time this happens, I will pin the new and old togather on the bench, and compare. We were amazed that it did not break. It was the original piece from 1960. They do not make em like that anymore. Thanks to Ken, and the rest of ya for the help. WHEEE!

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                • #9
                  Wow.
                  I didnt think it was possible to bend the original levers.

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                  • #10
                    They were cast steel
                    rfm

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                    • #11
                      ...and you can bend cast fairly easy. Although...I too am surprised it bent.
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