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  • Can any of you "ole timers" answer this? A-2 with original Brunswick automatic scorer

    This is a question regarding the Brunswick A-2 pinsetter with Brunswick"s first automatic scorer that was on the market until the AS-80 system was introduced. Maybe some of you "old timers" can answer this question for me. The deck (machine deck, not the pin deck) looks to have had a "plate" of somesort mounted with the scoring system that extends out left from the 2 and 4 pin area and another one mounted right of the 3 and 6 pin position. The question is what was the purpose of this "plate"? I know the machine used the pinfinder system to detect and score the pin fall on both 1st and 2nd ball. I also know the machine stoped at 270 on 2nd ball to await the next bowler to indentify there position. The only thing I could figure this set up was to detect and score a out of range pin. However I think there was something more that this "plate" did.

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    Nope...that was all it did...outside of helping you bruise your shins.

    This was used on the first version of the Astroline scoring system. It was called discrete scoring. The second version came out in the late 70's and was called IC scoring. It was short lived...two or three years if I remember correctly. Then the AS-80 system came out. The plates were not used on the IC scorers.
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    • #3
      Yep, for OOR pins. Those were the good old days. Printers, prisms and bowler I.D. panels. !! NOT

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Steve Stafford (JBEES) View Post
        Nope...that was all it did...outside of helping you bruise your shins.

        This was used on the first version of the Astroline scoring system. It was called discrete scoring. The second version came out in the late 70's and was called IC scoring. It was short lived...two or three years if I remember correctly. Then the AS-80 system came out. The plates were not used on the IC scorers.
        Probably the last IC install was at Plaza Lanes in Washington, Il. in 1979. Bruns insured him that nothing new was coming out in the forseeable future, but before his install was finished AS-80's had been purchased by another local center. IC's were 2 lane units using same printers as discrete, and 79 scanners instead of deck switches. Main computer for each bank of 8 lanes was in a cabinet with table top on the concourse. I once spent 19 hours straight looking for a problem that put 8 lanes down, turned out to be a bad connection on a ground wire. What a PITA!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Steve Stafford (JBEES) View Post
          N...outside of helping you bruise your shins.
          I still have the scars to prove it!

          Charlie
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ed Fox View Post
            I still have the scars to prove it!

            Charlie
            Stall have mine also

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ed Fox View Post
              I still have the scars to prove it!

              Charlie
              Oh, God! I hated those things. But, what's funny is that the center I was in at the time, we took them off. It didn't make any difference in scoring.

              Another thing was repairing the printer heads in the consoles. What a PITA!

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              • #8
                We had those where I jr. bowled, the hole in the paper would tear out and it would'nt satisfy the spring loaded knob.

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                • #9
                  anyone have photos of discrete or IC? I know what as-80 and scanners are like, I had AS-90.

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                  • #10
                    TOM
                    do you remember that [ Selma lanes ] Had one console for 4 lanes machine
                    It did two pin detect one would pick up remaining pins for spar shot
                    one to detects pins you missed on your #2 ball

                    side
                    note thar was no upper ? adjustment screw on the deck holding hook

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                    • #11
                      So the machine cycled 3 times??
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by discobrian View Post
                        So the machine cycled 3 times??
                        YES
                        1] to set new rack of pins
                        2] to detech pins
                        3] to detech pins left standing

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                        • #13
                          http://www.bowltech.com/forums/showt...l=1#post323749
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                          • #14
                            I thought these out if range detecting plates on the deck were plates added to support the deck, or are those two different things? I think I might have seen what you guys are talking about once but not sure....are there pics someone could put up?

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                            • #15
                              That is wild, great post!!
                              B Mechanic Freeway Lanes of Parma
                              42 Old Otis A's, Steltronic Scoring, Kegel ION Sport

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