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    one of my lanes just started leaving deadwood... it seems to happen when two pins are in the gutter and when the rake goes to sweep the rack just bounces over one or both pins... i've checked the rake board height and its right at 3 1/2 inches.. the lift rods look straight from what i can see. Could it be that the lift rods are just weak now or maybe the two springs that are weak..

  • #2
    broken oilites perhaps? go through Steve Stafford's rake adjustment procedure.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by robert2020 View Post
      one of my lanes just started leaving deadwood... it seems to happen when two pins are in the gutter and when the rake goes to sweep the rack just bounces over one or both pins... i've checked the rake board height and its right at 3 1/2 inches.. the lift rods look straight from what i can see. Could it be that the lift rods are just weak now or maybe the two springs that are weak..

      The 3 1/2" is only one of many parts of the rake adjustment... If your rake sweep cam follower is out of adjustement, that will not change the 3 1/2" measurement, but it will affect the rake's sweep motion as a whole. The rake may not be staying close enough to the pindeck throughout the whole motion of the rake sweep. Steve Stafford has a good adjustment for the rake, I suggest going through the whole rake adjustment if you are seeing that your rake sweep motion as a whole is part of the problem
      Nick

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      • #4
        week rack springs rack can bounce over 2 pins in the gutter

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        • #5
          Check to be sure your oilites are in good shape in the sweep arms. With the rake down, try lifting the rake board a bit and see if there is any movement in the oillite bearings or X-washer pins.

          Also...when is the rake board at 3 1/2 inches. I am not aware of any place that measurement is used?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Steve Stafford (JBEES) View Post
            Also...when is the rake board at 3 1/2 inches. I am not aware of any place that measurement is used?
            You are right....I was thinking or a set of rake adjustment taught to me at frank miroballi's pinsetter school. And part of the adjustment was to set the height of the rake board to 3" (not 3 1/2") at 0 degrees with the rake down. My bad I should have realized that this is not part of the set of adjustments used in the service manual, but rather an alternative set of adjustments which are not common knowledge (which also actually works quite well!)
            Nick

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            • #7
              Steve Stafford's rake adjustment is probably the best solution. Basically what you want is for the rake board to move from front to rear as if it's riding on rails. That way all deadwood is swept into the pit.

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              • #8
                Regardless of which adjustment you use...bad oilite bearings will cause the rake board to want to ride over the top of the pin if the head of the pin is facing the bowler.

                There are other things that can cause deadwood though...a bind in the motion of the pit cushion can cause the rake board to rise while it is sweeping rearward.
                TSM & TSM Training Development
                Main Event Entertainment
                480-620-6758 for help or information

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                • #9
                  just had this problem last week,turns out that an aluminum sweep arm was installed on that lane,and naturally,it was bent from rake strikes.out the door it went,lol.wondering if you have converted pit cushion links to rollers?
                  wish i had the same access to that infallible source of expertise on lane conditions that bowlers seem to have....

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                  • #10
                    We've got 4 out of 48 lanes left then all of our cushions have roller kits. Its made a huge difference in our deadwood calls, not to mention the maintenance and replacement of parts i find to be much easier.

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