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[Sparky8302]

Was lookin thru our parts catalogs and came across the plug in style motor start relay 12-862203-000. now is this for American machines only or is it universal? If not i can just go the grainger route

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STEVE
HAS ALL THE INFO YOU NEED HE WILL POST IN A LITTLE BET

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

The new product from Brunswick is an excellent part and will work in any make of the Brunswick A/A-2/Jetback. It is completely universal. There is a setup you can use from Grainger if you wanted to go that route...either is a great upgrade to the electrical system.

[Sparky8302]

okay good deal.. was just curious because of the parts book saying that it replaced part numbers in the american machines... thanks guys...

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

I have not seen the instructions but I am quite sure there are instructions that will allow them to be installed into a Japanese machine. If there are no instructions for it...get back with us and we will guide you through the install. Very simple to do.

[Sparky8302]

sounds like a plan steve.... im all for payin $30 a relay compared to $70.11 for a dang contactor

[Sparky8302]

well i finally got the relay and the instructions are for american standard and universal.... i tried to make sense of it but there are wires in my boxes that are not labeled and im confused on the jumper as well...... so i drew a pretty lil picture of our contact and then made up a list of connections.. the relay i went with is the one from Brunswick.

here is our current wiring set up and its the same all across the house

coil A- wired to cannon plug for accellerator

coil B- wired to ts-2 and jumped to conn #3

conn #1- wire H-1 to tranformer
wire #7 to ts-1 H

conn #2- wire #33 to thermal overload

conn #3- jumped to coil B

conn #4- wired to #14 on time delay
wired to ts2-1
jumped to conn # 5

conn #5- jumped to conn # 4

conn # 6- is wired to a 3 pin cannon plug called MC-3.. we do not use this connection...


the new relay has connections numbered 1-11 how would i hook this bad boy up? remember the picture is of our current setup.

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

coil A- wired to cannon plug for accellerator

Place this wire on the A coil of the new relay

coil B- wired to ts-2 and jumped to conn #3

Place these wires on the B coil of the new relay

conn #1- wire H-1 to tranformer
wire #7 to ts-1 H

Place this wire on the connection right below the A of your new relay. I do not know how these are numbered on your base but they should be numbered similar to a relay base you could get from Grainger. I am going to use this image as sort of a guideline for you to follow as this should give you the idea. 7 would be the connection I am using.

conn #2- wire #33 to thermal overload

Place this wire on #4 of the new relay base.

conn #3- jumped to coil B

Place this wire on #8 of your new relay.

conn #4- wired to #14 on time delay
wired to ts2-1
jumped to conn # 5

Place these wires on #5 of your new relay...except for the jumper wire. Remove it and throw it away. It is not used on your setup.

conn #5- jumped to conn # 4

This wire was thrown away in the previous step

conn # 6- is wired to a 3 pin cannon plug called MC-3.. we do not use this connection...

This wire is not used here in the US...you can cut this wire off of the cannon plug if you wish...or tape it off. It makes no difference as you do not use it.

the new relay has connections numbered 1-11 how would i hook this bad boy up? remember the picture is of our current setup.

Again...I do not know how your new relay base is laid out but it should be similar to the above picture. Since yours is numbered 1-11 and the one I am showing is numbered 1-9 along with an A and B...you will need to match up your numbers to the above image. If you would post a picture of the relay base with the numbers being visible, I can match it exactly for you.

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

Found what I was looking for...

A of your old relay goes to 10 of the new relay
B of your old relay goes to 11 of the new relay
1 of the old relay goes to 7 of the new relay
2 of the old relay goes to 4 of the new relay
3 of the old relay goes to 6 of the new relay
4 of the old relay goes to 9 of the new relay
13 and 14 of the old relay are still no longer needed so eliminate those wires.

[Sparky8302]

steve your the man.. i was gonna give you a call but i wanted you to enjoy your weekend ha ha ha....now would i be removing the jumper thats being used now from con 4 to con 5?

[Steve Stafford (JBEES)]

now would i be removing the jumper thats being used now from con 4 to con 5?

Yep...make it go away. It does nothing.

[House]

the plug in style also works great for a motor start relay