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  • Lanes turning on when other lanes get turned on.

    We had water damage through our roof over 8 of our A2 machines. The problem we are having is....when turning the switch on lane 14, for some reason lane 10 is powering up.... BUT Lane 14 will not power up. Some other lanes were turning on randomly as well. We have AMF accuscore xl scoring. And a few of the MI's did have water go onto them. We have not replaced those because they seem to be working. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!!
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    www.dommsbowling.com

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    They are A's not A2's. My mistake
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    • #3
      ON your curtain wall you will find a box with 8 weirs going to 9 -16 open cover check for condensation [?]

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      • #4
        We eventually found it. There was a low voltage short.
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        • #5
          GOOD DEAL

          WARE WAS THE SHORT

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          • #6
            We had new "Green" Lighting put in the entire place. One of their ladders must have smashed into the switches above the pin wheel in the back of the machine. The metal housing was dented in pretty good. One of the wires on the side of the switch was touching the metal housing. That is what caused the short....
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            • #7
              that wood do it

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              • #8
                That would explain how you got the 24v to ground on 14. But it doesn't solve your other issue of how lane 10 was getting the grounded 24v to the control circuit. The problem my not be present any more, but if there is another ground short on that bank then lane 10 will turn on again. It's already bypassing the managers control, so it may also bypass the jam switches. Disused strike light mercury switch connections at the detector have done this to me.

                Just something to look into.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JohnMart View Post
                  We had new "Green" Lighting put in the entire place. One of their ladders must have smashed into the switches above the pin wheel in the back of the machine. The metal housing was dented in pretty good. One of the wires on the side of the switch was touching the metal housing. That is what caused the short....
                  Had a similar situation when a managers toggle switch developed an internal short to ground, only found it when i took the switch out of machine to check it and problem went away. A real bear to find!
                  Brent V
                  Hi-tech Repairs-Duck tape & ty raps

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kanga View Post
                    That would explain how you got the 24v to ground on 14. But it doesn't solve your other issue of how lane 10 was getting the grounded 24v to the control circuit. The problem my not be present any more, but if there is another ground short on that bank then lane 10 will turn on again. It's already bypassing the managers control, so it may also bypass the jam switches. Disused strike light mercury switch connections at the detector have done this to me.

                    Just something to look into.
                    Had a shorted mercury switch on 16 blowing low voltage fuses on 10 couple years ago, luckily found it when i noticed 2nd ball light on 16 glowing slightly with both lanes off.
                    Brent V
                    Hi-tech Repairs-Duck tape & ty raps

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                    • #11
                      Yes, we did have another problem at the time. Lane 14 was turning on 10 and we found the switch was the problem. At the time we could not get Lane 14 to fire up. Transformer was blown. Fixed that but couldn't get power still. The machine would hum, but we couldn't get the relay to suck in. After 2 days of looking for the problem, we found out that the relay in the junction box near the up front ball return was holding power down. Luckily we are back in business.....
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