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  • SPIDER TROUBLE

    NEED SOME ADVICE ON WHAT TO LOOK FOR.FIVE PIN FALLS THROUGHT BUT DOESN'T RELEASE SPIDER ASSY.ONLY MOVES A LITTLE BIT.GIVES ME 180'S INTERMITTEDLY.

  • #2
    Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

    hey sully,
    try lubricating the arm of the torsion latch where it meets the time delay gear, also check the torsion latch bumper for a flat spot which would bring the torsion latch further underneath the time delay gear making it more difficult for the spider to release it.
    hope this helps,
    bunsmechanic
    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE

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    • #3
      Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

      Don't forget to check the spider cam follower bearing, if its frozen you will get the same symptom.Sometimes a turret wire can be out of adjustment so that a pin is not sitting properly on the spoon and when the 5 pin falls thru the spoons won't be able to shift properly.So check to make sure all pins are sitting properly on the spoons.A blocking finger that is out of adjustment can also bind on your probe and allow the 5pin to fall thru and not release the pins from the turret.Hope this helps

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      • #4
        Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

        I agree with all the above and another thing to look for is see if your Pin release lever is bent thats the tounge shaped thing inside 5 pin chute if its bent there will be more room for pin to fall through chute and not release spider.Also check the bronze bearings in the lever and the 2 paralell links to probe if they are broken or even missing this will cause slop and get malfunctions

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        John
        John

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        • #5
          Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

          THANKS GUYS I WILL CHECK IT OUT WHEN I GO IN..

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          • #6
            Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

            I had a problem similar to this once and found out the guys had lowered the turret frame so low that the pin would bounce back up and behind the pin release lever and not index. I have seen some bent ones so you may want to check that out as well as it could be many things. Just make sure the trip lever is hitting the torsion latch and not hitting the nut on top of the turret clutch pulley. I have also seen the torsion latch drag on the frame as well and had to shim it up so that it would return without dragging and I have seen the torsion latch grab on the number stamping of the turret delay gear.
            Some of the Quality turret delay gears have the stamping so far out that I had to grind them down to get them to work.
            Study it carefully because as we all know it ends up being something simple that we just don't see at the time.
            As tedious as it can be have fun with it and try to keep your patience
            Drill
            Drill

            David Bolt
            Champaign, IL
            USBC Silver Coach
            IBPSIA BOD
            IBPSIA Advanced
            Technical Certified
            Pro Shops

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            • #7
              Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

              When I rebuild a pin release lever I always make sure that the measurement from the front edge of lever to the backend of lever measures 5 1/8 inches(I take a caliper and measure across)

              Hope this also helps,
              Peanut
              Peanut

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              • #8
                Re: SPIDER TROUBLE

                ALSO CHECK FOR A LOW TURRET WIRE HITTING ON YOUR SPOONS.
                Its just a matter of time until something will go wrong.

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