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    I had a call the other night to a machine where the 9 pin sat on an angel in the deck chute and when the deck came back to zero the pin was under the turret assy causing it to rise and blacking the machine out, is there a way to prevent the 9 pin from sitting on an angel and pushing the turret assy up, pls dont think this is a stupid question as it has me beaten.

  • #2
    Re: Blackouts

    First two things I'd look at, make certain the v protector pan is installed, and that the machine is stopping at true zero degrees, thereby releasing pins from turret when deck comes up. Its most common to have a machine turret jam on one that waits until machine starts down before dumping pins into deck, there can be other causes, but elimanate these two first
    Hope of some help


    • #3
      Re: Blackouts

      Check to make sure you have the right kind of deck chute and that it's centered right. Also...check to see if the turret wire for the 9-pin is on correctly. See if the guide roller under the chute is OK too.



      • #4
        Re: Blackouts

        Yes the protector pan was what first came to mind for me, also if the pan is there make sure the bolts that hold it in place do not stick out providing a place for the head of the pin to get caught on.
        I have seen the wrong bolts installed on these many times.

        good luck

        Mike Wilson
        Bowl-Tech Inc..


        • #5
          Re: Blackouts

          THanks guys for all your help ill be sure to look into this and get abck to you thanks guys


          • #6
            Re: Blackouts

            All those sound good...if you have time. With our linage, if something like that was happening and there was no time to t/s, we would most likey cut about 3 strips of cardboard, 1"X6", stack them together, and hard duct tape them on the top and inside of the 9-pin chute nearest the turret. This would keep the head of the pin pointing more upright. We often have to do meatball surgery to keepem going... as i'm sure many of you have done before!
            What do we do with the bits left over?


            • #7
              Re: Blackouts

              Pin Monkey:
              Your apt to give Deadwood more food for thought.
              Its faster to just o out the clutch.
              In jest.


              • #8
                Re: Blackouts


                FWIW, we had this same problem in a house I used to work. Everyone knew (Including the "A" who didn't care) that it was from the decks being raised too high due to the installation of synthetic lane panels. Everything was overlaid (including approaches) so the head mechanic just raised the decks via lowering link (some Scotch Yokes)...we knew this to be the problem because up until the installation of the synthetics, we never saw those calls. I hope they've gone back and properly raised the pinsetter by now...some of those jams can get quite nasty.

                On a lighter note, this too might feed Deadwood's fire about doing things right in the first place....LOL !

                "Where are we going, and why are we in a hand basket?"



                • #9
                  Re: Blackouts

                  On some of our pinsetters the turret castings wasn't beveled on the edges causeing pin heads to catch,we removed potective cove and filed the frame edge,then reinstalled cover


                  • #10
                    Re: Blackouts

                    When pins are dumped at O degrees first ball, the eight and nine pin heads are above the bottom of the turret frame, and unless there is some unusual force pushing them inwards the heads will remain in that position, as do the heads of all the other pins, its when they are dumped whilst the deck is starting down that they have the proclivity to come in under the turret frame.


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