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    Is there an easier way to change a bad moving deck cable? Once the compression springs are out of the spring tube they are difficult to get back in far enough to get the switch actuator pin in place, is ther a special tool that is needed or are they just a whole lotta fun?
    Ken Forst "The meek may inherit the earth but the truly demented will still rule it"

  • #2
    Re: moving deck cables

    Hey Ken
    Quality Bowl sells a tool for reloading the cable in the spring tube.
    Sorry I do not have the part number but maybe someone will read this and inform you better.
    I had this tool and it made changing the cable SAFE and EASY.
    Grambo

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    • #3
      Re: moving deck cables

      the part # is 38-1079 This is a valuble tool when rebiulding the deck jam tube assembly. Get one!!! Other methods can be dangerous

      billman
      let me be myself

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      • #4
        Re: moving deck cables

        A whole lot safer to use the tool, not to mention that with the tool, whole job can be done in about 3 minutes, as you leave the springs in the tube, just pop the pin, put the new cable in, put pin in and good to go.

        A MUST-HAVE tool, IMO...

        Kevin

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        • #5
          Re: moving deck cables

          Thanks for the info, my staff will be glad to hear of this as they will not have to hear 2 hours of my little tirades as I get aggravated with trying to jam those springs back in
          Ken Forst "The meek may inherit the earth but the truly demented will still rule it"

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          • #6
            Re: moving deck cables

            I changed one of them a few weeks back... I jamed a screw driver through the spring to hold it in place... you have to hold your tounge right to get the cable off and back on again but at least there was no troubles with the spring coming out and no money spending...

            that's one method at least

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            • #7
              Re: moving deck cables

              Aussie:
              Next to setting your hair on fire, or jumping under a deck, with it on the holding hook, what else do you do for thrills ?
              Be very careful what you advise some of the less experienced to try. Realize you may be talking to a young person whom has not yet lost an eye or a finger due to thoughtless attempts to save time or money, and for what did they lose that member? I guarantee that they will ask themselves that same question in their later years. Grambo cautions us often about safety, and he is 100 percent correct. If nothing else were to come from this forum, let it be that no one else is hurt by something we were hurt by.
              Respectfully.
              Roscoe
              rfm

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              • #8
                Re: moving deck cables

                Aussie, I appreciate the response however, I was trying to find a way to safely and more easily change the cable, I had already done the screwdriver part and realized that that way was WAY to dangerous, spending a few bucks for a proper tool is well worth it when you think of what could happen without it. Thanks again for your input
                Ken
                Ken Forst "The meek may inherit the earth but the truly demented will still rule it"

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                • #9
                  Re: moving deck cables

                  Enough can't be said about safety in this forum...always remember to use the right tool for the right job. Sometimes this means spending a couple of extra dollars...

                  Just my two cents worth...

                  Steve

                  PS Beats losing something that can't be replaced...
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                  • #10
                    Re: moving deck cables

                    aussie tech,
                    this is how i explain saftey to my mechanics or anyone else that says "it doesn't matter". i love what i do, and i like who i do it for (most of the time..lol). but i don't make enough or love them enough to lose a finger, an eye or an extremity because it might save me a few bucks. trust me what your employer would pay in workers comp bills, does justify the cost of a tool that will make your job easier AND safer.

                    alex
                    Conditioner: Pantene Pro-V Brunette Expressions with Color Enhancer
                    Cleaner: Fabuloso Spring Fresh with Bleach Alternative
                    Cloth: ShamWow!
                    Machine: Johnny 5
                    Surface: Melamine-impregnated, phenolic-treated, high pressure pressed craft paper

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                    • #11
                      Re: moving deck cables

                      I always use the proper spring tool for this but b4 i had access to one....I used a socket with a notch ground into it,Along with a big wide vise and just compressed the springs in with the vise works like a charm, BUt yes a eye or finger aint worth losing fer nobody at any time.....:_)

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                      • #12
                        Re: moving deck cables

                        sorry if most of you out there think this is a dangerous way to change this..
                        but at the time it was the safest way I could think of to do it.
                        and before seeing this topic, I was not aware there was a specialized tool for it.

                        the centre I work in is over 1000 miles from out closest parts destributor, the quickest I have EVER gotten parts was just this week... it took 3 days for them to show up.
                        so I don't have the advantage of waiting for a part to come in

                        when I discovered I needed to replace this cable, I took it off the machine and into the workshop and thought about how I was going to replace it... it was 15 to 20 minutes before I got started.
                        I saw that if I just knocked the pin out the spring would fly out, didn't want that to happen and the idea of trying to put it back in was daunting, so the idea of the screw driver was the safest idea I could come up with.

                        Alex....
                        never once have I ever said "it doesn't matter"
                        Safety is always on my mind every time I walk through the front doors as I said before... short of having the machine down for a couple of days.. what else could I have done?

                        Roscoe

                        I never would have suggested it if I had believe it was dangerous.
                        and btw... I am the lead Tech at this centre.
                        I have been working in the bowling industry for just over a year now. thanks to a great instructor, and alot of logic, I have managed to do a good job, I have only been lead Tech for 4 months now.
                        When I first got to the centre, it was still pretty badly run down from previous managment, we averaged about 2 trouble calls per GAME!!!
                        I have managed to bring it steady at 30games per call now. (new management and the head tech had been there 3 months before I was it was even worse before they got there.)

                        I am still very inexperienced and do rely on you guys for help on some of the more difficult problems,
                        but Safty has always been utmost on my mind.

                        when I aam working on the machines our motto is... "pretend all front counter staff and bowlers are out to kill you."
                        if you remember this, you have safty on your mind before you leave the workshop.
                        it sounds harsh but it does work.

                        I don't want you guys thinking I am unsafe in the work area, just on a very tight budget, in a VERY isolated area.


                        so if there are any other suggestions on how this can be done, I would love to hear them


                        your apoligetically
                        Tech

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                        • #13
                          Re: moving deck cables

                          aussie
                          it's good to hear that you are saftey conscience. i apologize if i seemed harsh on my last post. as for you bowlers are out to kill you theory....right on. i tell my guys that when ever they jump down on the deck to drop the rake. i tell them "i don't trust any bowler with MY saftey". again i apologize.

                          alex
                          Conditioner: Pantene Pro-V Brunette Expressions with Color Enhancer
                          Cleaner: Fabuloso Spring Fresh with Bleach Alternative
                          Cloth: ShamWow!
                          Machine: Johnny 5
                          Surface: Melamine-impregnated, phenolic-treated, high pressure pressed craft paper

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                          • #14
                            Re: moving deck cables

                            Thanks for all the interesting reading. I too have done the screwdriver thing and it is not the safe way to go. That is why I now have two cable assemblies hanging on the parts wall. Never let a unexperienced pinchaser try to change this part! Have a good day as I wave goodbye with all 10 fingers still attached.
                            Playball2Hard
                            Treat everyday like it could be your last day!

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                            • #15
                              Re: moving deck cables

                              I remember someone wrote earlier that they let the spring out...

                              how is this not dangerous?
                              could somebody explain to me why they believe the screw driver is more dangerous then letting the whole spring out

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