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    Just a question, I've seen some mechanics use a rag soaked with 90w oil attached to the tube to keep them lubricated instead of using grease. Will a rag with oil keep the tube lubricated well enough or is grease the best bet?

    [This message has been edited by young gun (edited 02-04-2001).]

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    Re: Spring Guide Tubes

    I have seen oil wicks cut from an old 100 oil tank used in the same manner you have mentioned. The excess oil just collected in the bottom of the bottom tube. And with the style that has a hole in the bottom, that gets pretty messy after about two to three years. I removed them and cleaned the tubes once a month and used a fresh coating of grease. It doesn't seem near as messy to me. But then again...

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    TSM & TSM Training Development
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    • #3
      Re: Spring Guide Tubes

      Oil eats grease. So, if you greased the inside of your spring tubes when you put them together, then put an oil soaked rag on them to keep them lubricated, the oil will get inside and basically decompose the grease. The best thing to do is keep them clean and re-grease them every other month at the minimum, as was mentioned earlier!
      Hope this helps!!

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      • #4
        Re: Spring Guide Tubes

        Thanks for the info guys. I was just curious, I have always used grease and was just wondering the difference between oil or grease.

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        • #5
          Re: Spring Guide Tubes

          bobdog,
          Interesting statement...oil eats grease. I was not aware of that. When I worked on Sherman duckpins, we would mix up an oil and grease concoction to pack in the gearboxes...the oil caused the grease to move a little better and swirl around inside the gearbox keeping the gears constantly lubricated. It looked alot like a mixer moving a thick cake mix around in a bowl. Without the oil, the grease would glob up around the sides of the gears and stay there. I never noticed the grease break down or decompose...

          Don't get me wrong...I don't condone using oil where grease should go. This is an atypical example of mixing oil and grease. I know of nowhere else I would do something like this. The concoction would just move too much away from where it was put. These gearboxes are enclosed so the grease couldn't get out.

          Just my thoughts...what do you think?

          Steve
          TSM & TSM Training Development
          Main Event Entertainment
          480-620-6758 for help or information

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          • #6
            Re: Spring Guide Tubes

            I used a piece of pool table felt (oiled) instead of the rag. I found the grease needed to be removed/replaced frequently because the dirt sticks to it and scores the tube.

            Ken Smoltz

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            • #7
              Re: Spring Guide Tubes

              No offense Ken...but the PM charts I have say to clean the grease off and regrease every month anyway. That will keep any dirt from building up and damaging the tubes. And doesn't the bottom of the wicks collect alot of dirt and provide a gritty surface also...the wicks I removed were filthy with dirt.

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              TSM & TSM Training Development
              Main Event Entertainment
              480-620-6758 for help or information

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              • #8
                Re: Spring Guide Tubes

                I agree with Ken's way...I use a felt wrapping with oil as well...the spring inside is well greased...being inclosed in the tube, it's not so suseptible to dirt and since you can't just lube the inside anytime you feel like it, grease is the way to go...but I've found that greasing the outside just makes for a dirt problem...by using an oiled felt, the exposed part of the tube remains constantly lubricated and clean since the felt actually wipes it with every cycle.

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                • #9
                  Re: Spring Guide Tubes

                  What I meant by oil eats grease is that since grease is thicker, when oil is added to it it becomes thinner and it's structure changes. Grease breaks down eventually anyway due to many factors(heat, cold, friction) oil just speeds that process of breaking it down. That was just a simplification that we always used to keep new guys from oiling where grease should be and greasing where oil should be.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Spring Guide Tubes

                    I've read in several bearing catologs that grease is basicly a mixture of soap and oil. Does this mean old grease has just used up its oil and neads a little added? Or is it that simple? Its probably a special oil anyway that you just can't go up the street and buy.

                    When I worked on A-2's the head would have us oil the foam pads he glued on the 1:1 cam followers every month. It seamed like a good idea then, but I would do it the traditional way now. You want to reduce friction not add it.

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