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    Has anybody used the belt guards that keep pins out of the cross-conveyor drive belt in event of a turn pan jam? I have one machine that eats about one new pin per week ever since I installed new pins (of course) I'll eventually figure out why but in the meantime I thought a guard might save me $$.
    Adjustments like turn pan or ball lift rods are a real trial on wall hung machines!!

  • #2
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    I USE THEM BUT MAKE SURE YOU ORDER THE RIGHT ONE DEPENDS ON IF YOU HAVE A AMERICAN OR JAP. MACHINE BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT ONE OR IT WONT'T FIT. I ONLY HAVE 2 ON OUT OF 24 MACHINES BUT THEY TOOK CARE THE PROBLEMS I HAD ON THOSE 2 MACHINES. DONT HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH REST. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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    • #3
      Re: belt guards

      I have 20 lanes use the guards on all my pinsetters. I don't have a problem with turn pan jams, but I like the extra piece of mind that my pins won't get damaged.

      [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] Sorry to hear you have wall huggers what a pain in the @## they are!!!

      joe
      PINSETTERMECH

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      • #4
        Re: belt guards

        I have made some of these using an aluminum channel. I split them at the 90 degree bend, and formed them to shape. Was a little tricky though.


        BTW..I know this is a little off topic, but how do you go about replacing a ball wheel/pinwheel on these machines? Do you have to take the whole machine out to get to it? I've never seen these type, but have heard of em. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
        <span style="font-style: italic">Sometimes it is best to use good advice from many individuals to achieve the ultimate result.</span>

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        • #5
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          I've never had to change a ball or pin wheel but I'm pretty sure the pinsetter would have to be removed. That would have to be a summer job for sure although it isn't as hard as you might think. Easier to just drag in the welder, gather all the fire extinguishers, and make sure the insurance is paid. If there was clearance overhead the elevator could be removed that way but I have only about five feet. But I never have to gather pins out of the back walkway and throw them back in the machine! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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          • #6
            Re: belt guards

            in order to remove the pinwheel you only need to loosen the top p/w rolloers and move them all the way up. then it's just matter of lifting the pinwheel and removing it.
            as for the ballwheel you need to remove the cross conveyor and motor mount shaft. move the two upper b/w rollers and moved all the way up. then fight with it for a bit then it's out. not the most fun thing in the world to do but not difficult, though it is a little time consuming.

            alex
            Conditioner: Pantene Pro-V Brunette Expressions with Color Enhancer
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            Machine: Johnny 5
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            • #7
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              Shamefowjze,
              How do you get the pinwheel up past the elevator frame which is about 12 inches less than the diameter of the pin wheel keeping in mind that the pinwheel can't be tilted back? (concrete wall) I think a power hacksaw and a modular pinwheel would solve the problem [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] Seriously the elevator frame could be tipped forward after removing the cross-conveyor and motor mount. Since I have A machines made in the USA ( single wall pinwheels) I think I'll just weld in place but for right now I'll just hope the problem doesn't arise.
              [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]

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              • #8
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                Sherlock, would be interested in seeing a pic of your backend. That's truly scary that the rear of the machines are that close to the wall. Trying to change anything on the elevator (lift rods, etc.) would seem to be impossible. Makes me feel privileged to have 6-7 feet behind mine [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] Later.

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                • #9
                  Re: belt guards

                  Quote:]Originally posted by A2 Guy:
                  Sherlock, would be interested in seeing a pic of your backend.

                  Makes me feel privileged to have 6-7 feet behind mine [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] Later.
                  [/QUOTE]

                  Yes. I'd like to see that too.

                  I'm also very happy to have 8-9 feet in back. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

                  On a couple of our machines, the catwalk on the back says "NOT FOR USE AS WALKWAY". Looks like you don't have much choice. and with only 5 ft of overhead clearance!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif[/img] That must be rough. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
                  <span style="font-style: italic">Sometimes it is best to use good advice from many individuals to achieve the ultimate result.</span>

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                  • #10
                    Re: belt guards

                    Yikes!!! Sure makes SBE's seem like a ~mandatory~ investment!!! [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif[/img]
                    Oldsmagnet -- Sidney MT

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