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    iv'e got a problem with a turret. when you are not watching yhe meahine the turret will stop at the one position with a pin sitting on top of the trip lever. its only the one pin spot that does this. i have replaced both turret wires , adjusted snubber trip lever and wires many times with the same end result. the stupid thing will run fine if you sit and watch but the second you leave 180 on lane 8. also once and a while i will find a pin sitting neck first laying base on the snubber head on the turret wires. any input that might help my problems would greatly apprecated [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

  • #2
    Re: turret woes

    Sounds like you have a problem in the indexing linkage. The problem usually develops as wear occurs in each of the connections of the linkage. Small amounts of wear add up to alot of wear and slop in the mechanism. Check each point and be sure everything is tight. I recommend the bolt in style for each end of the short indexing link. This eleiminates any wear in the holes of the parts they bolt onto. Too much spring pressure on the indexing trip lever can also come from too much wear in all of the parts. Be sure the spring is adjusted properly. Last, be sure the long turret drive belt tension spring is not too tight. This should be only tight enough to get the turret to index past the 5. Any tighter will cause the indexing latch to try and lock to the rear of the roller bearing it is holding down. Bottom line, look for wear in the parts of the indexing linkage and you should find your problem. This may not be one item causing your problem, so look at all the parts.

    The second problem you have has nothing to do with the first. You have a turn pan/pin guide problem. The head of the pin is coming up the cross conveyor first...that is why it is ending up on top of the turret. Good luck...
    TSM & TSM Training Development
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    • #3
      Re: turret woes

      Jaysen,
      I have had this problem many times before, I would replace the indexing latch. It could be worn, replace with new one and see if this problem goes away.
      Eddie

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      • #4
        Re: turret woes

        I had this problem and it drove me crazy. I would adjust and adjust and send 4,000,000 pins up to the turret with no problems then the next morning the chaser will have written down 4 or 5 180's noting a pin sitting on the lever. I finally had to move the snubber in towards the pin to make the pins angle steeper thereby striking the index lever harder. I had previously moved it way out thinking it was too tight and not allowing full downward motion of the pin. It went away after moving it in. As for backwards pins, I fooled with the cam in the turn pan on a couple of lanes till I was blue in the face. One lane I just ended up taking the cam (guide) out all together and that made it stop, another lane I adjusted that springy pin guide so that the heads of the pins better missed a piece of round frame. It went away as well.

        ..rob
        Space is the Place!

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        • #5
          Re: turret woes

          I have had two machines that would only fail to index on one of the corner pins (1-7-10) In both cases, the trip pedal bushings were worn ... and it doesn't take much.

          See the following thread for some other thoughts, too ...

          <a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543" target="_blank">http://www.bowltech.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;f=3&amp;t=000543</a></a></a></a></a></a></a></a></a>

          Hope this helps:

          Kevin

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          • #6
            Re: turret woes

            thank you all the problem was in the bolt-in pin on the short indexing link worn installed new haven't had a problem since. am still having problem with head first pins though.

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            • #7
              Re: turret woes

              jaysen,
              For your head first pin problems you proablly need to go through and adjust your pin guides, and turn pans. The center I took over in Oct
              was having serval turn pan jams and head first
              pins per night. After going through and adjusting by the book the problem disappeared.

              Big Dog

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              • #8
                Re: turret woes

                HEY TRY THE SPACER THAT GOES FROM THE TRIP LINK TO THE TURRET ITS WRONG YOU NEED A LONDER SPACER THE LINK IS BINDING BELEVE ME IF NOT LET ME KNOW JB

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