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    i am having a problem with a lane, and after tracking down a blackout problem from hell, bad pin release, index roller, stop latch, roller on the back of long link, roll pin and strap, bent pin gate, turret wires, missing spring on blocking finger (you know that spring) mis-adjusted flag, trip lever and finally a turret stop that was put on top of the wrong spoon! and this is the first machine i have gotten into! i just started there and to give you an idea what i am up against the previous "mechanic" removed all preference's because he didnt know how to adjust them! springs and duct tape on everything, any way after getting the turret working i noticed it would get a call where it would be in second ball stopped at 270, it recycles only on the second ball and stops at 270, i have also noticed that when it is coming up to zero the 4 to 1 will jump a little bit. only at zero it doesnt jump any where else, like it is stopping short and then catching up. any help?
    p.s. does any one have the pinsetter schematic available on-line mine is missing about 50 pages
    thanks bruce

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    Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

    Freedomnot,

    It sounds like the clutch actuator link is getting locked back on the clutch reset lever. Check the dashpod height plunger and see if its too high. And with springs and tape on everything that doesnt help the situation either. You've got your hands full here for sure. Hope this helps. Its just one thing to check for.

    msbowl [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

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    • #3
      Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

      it looks like you need to do some prevent maint on you're machines since the last mech didnt do thins the right way oh well some guys need to clean up after other people but thats what we get paid for. Good luck. P.S. get a good pin chaser to help you with the work

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      • #4
        Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

        make sure you check your clutch reset mechanism. Maybe sloppy from no pm. check spring on side of gearbox on clutch reset lever side. Maybe wrong one?

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        • #5
          Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

          kewl dudes, i will check those springs tomm. adjusted dashpot today lane wasent really used but the lane right next to started to do the same thing
          hey i do have a pinjumper and he is real good at doing crossword puzzles anything else forget it hopefully that will change shortly.
          preventive forget it, it's alredy broke i have yet to see a pivot washer on a single pair of scissors. every lane has a "helper" spring on the l.h.? blocking finger, there was a such a strong spring on one g.b.clutch it wouldent cycle, did i mention the springs, this guy answer to life was a spring, if his girlfriend said to him "i'm pregnent" he would say "put a spring on it" i will have a serious pile of springs when i am done. dont get me wrong i aint bit**ing i live for this kind of stuff, turing a dungheap into something at least run's smooth, but sometime's you have to tell someone who at least understands [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
          peace
          bruce

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          • #6
            Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

            hey bruce. nice to know im not the only one with a milkcrate full of springs... nned any more? LOL

            thats the kind of center where the minute i walk down back and see how things run, i say "HOLE", as in "S#!THOLE".... [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
            if i had two pennies, i could rub them together...

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            • #7
              Re: 2nd ball recycle to 270

              yes definatly a sh**hole but after 3 weeks of knuckle busting constant wrenching, i aint running my a$$ off well running shifts got most of the blackouts and 180's knocked out ball calls wont leave till i get my prefrence parts [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] the cause of this call may have been one of two things 1. spring could have been wore out, put one with more tension on it. 2. g.b. clutch burned the sh** out of my hand when i went to look at it so i backed it off. between these 2 things i havent got this call again, and that is the theme in this place if it's broke, so is everything that touches it just plan on replacing everything.
              thanks for the help

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