scissor spring removal

[gearhead]

Noticed the pin that holds the scissor spring in place is trying to come out,the pin is on the 7 side.Is there a way to remove that spring w/o getting bitten by it?
Was thinking that i could drop the deck to 270 and remove it.Is there an easy way,can i go to an out of range and then remove the spring.Found it while doing my cleaning.I don't have a spare spring wheel for it but for now a new pin will be great,don't want the spring to come out all the way ya know.

Re: scissor spring removal

A couple of the suppliers sell a lever tool to remove the scissor spring from the back of the deck. I find it awkward to use and very unecessary.

I'll drop the deck to 270° - setting new pins - and kill all power to the pinsetter, then wedge myself between the deck and the cushion. Apply my vise-grip firmly to the long hook of the spring (7 side end). My back goes against the 10 side kickback, my left foot and right hand on the vise-grip. Push like hell against the vice-grip to extend spring past it's mount then gently release tension as you remove it.

Vise Grip® American Tool Companies, Inc.

[mainframe]

Re: scissor spring removal

gearhead,

I have found it easiest to detect a out of range and after the scissors close move the scissors cables between the upper and lower geneva pulleys on the deck post assembly. I use a rag to move the scissor cables. Now you can remove the spring manually at 90 degrees OOR or at 270 degrees.

[Drillmn300]

Re: scissor spring removal

I like the tool the sell to remove the spring, if you get bit once then it is too much for me.


Drill

[Planoldmechanic]

Re: scissor spring removal

I have to agree with mainframe. Detect an outof range pin, or when the machine is in first ball,pull back lightly on the standing pins controller/selector and then cycle the machine. The deck will be on the holding hook, the scissors start closing, and the deck lowers taking a short stroke and scissors closed. Kill the power, pull the plug and remove the scissors cable off the pulleys. Now you can run the machine to 90 or 270 and remove the spring a lot easier with the pressure removed. You can use the scissors tool or visegrips but you will be less likely to get hurt since the spring won't be extended.
Whatever you choose to do, do it safely, always pull the plug and take your time.
See yall later [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img]

[Adam_Davis]

Re: scissor spring removal

Cycle the pinsetter on a single standing pin. It doesn't matter which one. When the machine hits 180, cut the power. Pull on the scissor cable, and the pin will fall out. Use a rag or some thick gloves to protect your hands, and remove the cable. Lift the deck lowering hook just enough to clear the pin on the deck lift shaft (not too much or it'll jam into the crossbrace), and restore power. Stop machine at 270. Use whatever method you choose to remove the spring.

Once repairs are made, reinstall the cable, and cycle machine back to 0.

I use this method when removing the deck It's fast and easy.

[planet_rob]

Re: scissor spring removal

The suggestions about detecting an out-of-range and getting the spring off that way: Are you crawling under and/or behind the deck like this??? I would think this could be a bit risky. I wouldnt want anyone to get hurt. Is this what you guys meant??


...rob

[mainframe]

Re: scissor spring removal

Planetrob,
If it is at 90 degrees detecting an OOR pin I usually crawl through the elevator assembly to remove, but at 270 degrees I climb over the moving deck with the main power plug removed from the electrical box of course. I prefer spring removal at 270 degrees it's much easier for me to remove.

[Sherlock]

Re: scissor spring removal

Be prepared to wait for the pin and wheel from brunswick on that repair. I waited about 6 mos. for the parts to come from the slow moving parts warehouse. An xwasher pin installed while I waited is still in place. [img]/content/btubb/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]