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    Though i'd share my design for any other poor bastards still running original chassis and a KL circuit.
    we used to loose X cycles for days or weeks before someone reported them. no we can just glance to see if the KL is intact

    2012-09-06_19-05-06_0.jpg


    i'm not electronics guru so i figured this out with some tinkering. it has two diodes because for some reason it sometimes caused weird behavior. anything around a 50k resistor will work.

    these also are part of our upgraded control panel we are slowly rolling out
    2012-07-26_21-05-35_989.jpg

    enjoy
    Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

  • #2
    Wow, that's pretty awesome. Nicely done!

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    • #3
      Very, very nice. Good job

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      • #4
        I especially like the nice large buttons you used.

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        • #5
          we still haven't worked out a use for the spare button or switch. can't think of anything useful that will go through the jbox so we can still swap chassis.
          Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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          • #6
            For those of us that don't work on these why don't you list they useful circuits that do run through it and maybe we can make a suggestion.

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            • #7
              a couple of ideas thrown around were
              a Chassis Zero via the termials for the old foul cycle, but this would require rewiring all current and spare chassis
              a Pin Feed start, but this can easily be done by lifting the counter lever
              and maybe an emergency call button hooked to the front desk, but being on the top of the machine its probably not the best spot. i think we would be better off with large emergency stop buttons in better locations
              Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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              • #8
                i can also provide pinouts and instructions for anyone interested in doing these boxes
                Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by moonspud View Post
                  i can also provide pinouts and instructions for anyone interested in doing these boxes
                  I'd like to see the final design if possible. I might have a few suggestions. Incorporating a voltage regulator might be a plus vs. the diode/resistor design.

                  Jon
                  I've had enough of hope & chains.

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                  • #10
                    for the x cycle led it's as i drew. for my temp ones till i do control boxes the components are just soldered in a line then heat shrunk and just hang them out the j box
                    in the final version its on a bread board

                    the xcycle seems to be ac but also if it connects to gnd the sweep will continuous run. i've seen it spike to 30v during a strike detection. the led is solid except during a stike. something strange goes on in the chassis. the design i discovered work, but i'd be lieing if i said i understood why!
                    maybe a chassis guru could explain it


                    for the controller boxes you just have to connect to the right pins in the jbox to make the machine do the various things
                    Last edited by moonspud; 09-08-2012, 12:39 AM.
                    Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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                    • #11
                      Hi all

                      The K@L table wiring is power by the T1 transformer through a haft wave rectifier from each
                      side of T1 to coil on PR4. The center tap on T1 is connected to the frame with all of the 110
                      volt epuipment this makes the 24vdc very dirty there is a lot of AC mixed in with the DC and
                      make for big voltage spike as the motors start and stop. All of the 110 volt equipment in the
                      bilding is bonded togher on the same netural. LED do not like high or reverse voltage. If you
                      put a diodo in J26 to keep the ac spike from back feeding to your LED should help.

                      I installed ball 1 ball 2 switch on my chassis.

                      Dwight
                      Last edited by thunder_strikez; 09-11-2012, 10:58 PM.
                      split house8-8230kicker,4-8270pbl
                      surepick
                      wood
                      phoenix-s
                      As90
                      pins 2pair w/amf,2/bruns,2/linds

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                      • #12
                        it seemed to do something wierd on some machines (out of cycles, late strikes) without the second diode. could have been the quality of the diodes too(ebay) or maybe the chassis is on the edge of having problems.

                        but the final design i drew has been working on the tester lane for probably over a year and on the rest for about six months. the only issues i've had were my poor soldering....

                        PS our machines are 240v in australia
                        Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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                        • #13
                          The control box grew from the idea that we had no safe way of running the sweep or table.
                          You had to either push the contactor in the chassis(240v if you touch the wrong thing) or SA & TA levers (crush hazard)
                          With OH&S these days we decided to make something better
                          Duct Tape or a Sledge Hammer......such a hard choice

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                          • #14
                            It look like a neat and handy control board.

                            do the 240v motors have sweep revrese.
                            I am going to try to sepperat the start and run winding on one of the 110v and see if I can make it run in revrese.
                            I have alrady setup my chassis so i have short cycle and ball 1 ball 2 switch's.
                            our scoring systeem switch the mechine on 9pin strike to ball 2 so it clears deck and set pins and fill ball 10th frame.

                            Dwight
                            split house8-8230kicker,4-8270pbl
                            surepick
                            wood
                            phoenix-s
                            As90
                            pins 2pair w/amf,2/bruns,2/linds

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by moonspud View Post
                              The control box grew from the idea that we had no safe way of running the sweep or table.
                              You had to either push the contactor in the chassis(240v if you touch the wrong thing) or SA & TA levers (crush hazard)
                              With OH&S these days we decided to make something better
                              I havent worked here in this center that long but it didn't take long to work out that you have to move quick or you're going to get caught. We haven't gone through too many safety upgrades for the last few years by the seems of things. Would it be easier to position your control box at the back of the machine? or perhaps somehow attach it to the table gear guards?
                              Last edited by decro14; 10-11-2012, 09:40 PM.

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